RallyMo

Yep.
Ffffffff those people.

So, we'll count you as a conspiracy theorist here. Hey, my sister in law met Obama and has a picture with him. You think that she's behind the drone program?
 
If you actually bothered to read my post, I actually acknowledge that you didn't say he was put up to it. C'mon, man.

This is why the aliens won't talk to us!
 
 

Yep.
Ffffffff those people.

Look, I wish it didn't happen either, but I believe that police are trained to get as much information as they can before engaging..
I am not sure if what they did was wrong or right, from the outside it makes them look like pussies but I am guessing it has more to do with training or lack thereof.
Also, as far as feds and cops knowing about this kid and doing nothing about it................ they deserve Kevin's kick in the nuts
and worse.

Sean Miller, master recruiter. 
Carrer Over. 

I’m all for a ban on 18-24 year olds

Agreed
 
 

I know and you know the answer to this. It's our media. It's sensationalism. It's ratings. It's that a story of 20 or so kids having their lives snuffed out is easier to package than 20 individual stories of kids being killed by gunfire.
It's related to what Geoff said. It's easier to oppose things that aren't tied to what we enjoy/serves us positively. Discussions like that demand self reflection that makes us uncomfortable. 
I think mandating breathalyzers in every new vehicle and in all vehicles operated by anyone convicted of a single DUI would be a great start, then give everyone else a certain number of years to get their cars retrofitted in order to pass state tests for road worthiness.
This would save lives.

I don't know. Ask AnaheimBob, it's clearly his work.

So don't do it?

There should be a damn breathalyzer installed on every vehicle licensed to drive on public roads.

I can see it now. This measure saves the life of a future mass shooter. Rally 2024 dead in the water. 

Are you sure?
 

I don't know. Ask AnaheimBob, it's clearly his work.

It's not insignificant even if one of them isn't somebody you love.
However, you're responding to a thought that was never put forth in this thread with that comment.
I think you need to re-visit the exchange I had with mt.

18 year olds are easier to manipulate into killing machines and being sent into questionable conflicts.

Yeah, that is another thing, military service shouldn't begin until 21.

Nice post, VladdyMAGAlegs.

Of course it is, but despite the fact that you work from home a fair amount, you're not remotely serious about that. So, given that we have to apply this kind of stuff to the real world and not the message board back and forth fantasy you've created, it's a great start. Also, you were the one that brought up mandatory breathalyzers. If you didn't want the goalposts to be there relative to this discussion, you shouldn't have designed the field that way. I was just agreeing to a common sense solution that you actually proposed in this thread. It WOULD save lives without infringing terribly on personal freedom while adhering to societal norms. I'd assume you agree to your own suggestion even if it doesn't eliminate road deaths completely, no?

But we don't need to put common place measures in place, like limiting the amount of alcohol you can purchase or mandating breathalyzers be installed in death machines ... errrrrr ... I mean vehicles.
 
 

One of the most inescapable reasons that the man picked up the gun was this one: it was available to him and was by far the most efficient, concealable and unstoppable way for him to achieve his goal. None of this is influenced by whatever his mental state happened to be.

Simpsons?

While you're in the "hy" section of your dictionary look up "hyperbole."

Institute For Legislative Action. Do they have their own building and people who walk around in lab coats?