Jump to content

Yes We Can

Members
  • Posts

    58
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Reputation Activity

  1. Like
    Yes We Can got a reaction from Revad in Angels announce Perry Minasian as their next general manager   
    I agree. Very solid. Great story also.
  2. Like
    Yes We Can got a reaction from ukyah in Angels announce Perry Minasian as their next general manager   
    "His experiences make Perry Minasian perhaps uniquely suited to run a major league team at the moment. The game has skewed toward more and more data-driven decisions. Data is a great tool. But data can’t predict how a team on the same page might outperform its projections. It can’t predict how an organization, from isolated scouts in far-flung locations to minor league instructors to front office types, can better function if the boss understands and empathizes with their issues because he’s been in their exact situation. It’s still a game played by and maintained by people."
    "For too long, baseball has swung from one end of the pendulum to the other. In Perry Minasian, the former clubhouse kid from Arlington, the Angels may have found a way to combine best of both worlds."
    He seems to have a really nice hybrid mentality of old school and new school. I think he and Maddon will be a nice duo.
  3. THIS!
  4. Like
    Yes We Can reacted to Inside Pitch in Angels announce Perry Minasian as their next general manager   
    And you'd be right...
    The Astros had back to back years (2013/14), with the first overall pick and both times spent it on a SP...    Neither one of them made it to MLB.  Both are out of baseball.   Carlos Correa 1-1 (12), and Alex Bregman 1-2 (15), meanwhile went on to be all stars for them.   
    Good lord.  It's not about agreeing or disagreeing with you, perhaps you're guilty of projection and you should take your own unwarranted advice?
    What I did do was attempt to put the team's actual situation and their stated motivations at the time into context -- that's it.   That post didn't quote anyone, wasn't in response to anyone it was intended to stand on it's own.   You then engaged me..  as such... you don't get to tell me when I'm done with anything -- that's how it works.
    Once again.
    The Angels made a decision to try to address their system wide deficiencies by focusing on position players in the early rounds -- of that there is no question.   Outside of the catching position they have done a decent job of shoring things up, particularly with Rendon having filled the need for a legit 3B.  And yet... despite focusing on 1st round position players they DID manage to draft and graduate a SP during that span -- albeit he was a second rounder. 
    How does that compare with the rest of the AL?   Well, Griffin Canning gives the Angels one more SP originally drafted and graduated by the team since 2015 than the Yankees, Rays, Blue Jays, Red Sox, Twins, White Sox, Astros, Mariners, Athletics, and Rangers...
    You know what team has drafted and graduated the most SPs in the AL the last five years?  The Indians (four) and of those four NONE of them fit your criteria of first round college pitchers.  The lone first rounder (Tristan McKenzie), was drafted out of HS.  Beiber was a 4th rounder, Plesac was a 12th rounder, Civale a 3rd rounder.   Both the Royals and Tigers have two -- and of those four only one (Casey Mize) was a first rounder -- Brady Singer was a 2nd rounder.   The Orioles have 1, (Keegan Akin), taken in the second.  The Mariners BTW do have a pitcher drafted out of college and in the first round -- Justin Dunn who was acquired via trade.   The A's have Luzardo, taken out of HS in the 3rd round by the Nationals.
    For anyone keeping track -- that's 10 of the 15 AL teams who have failed to draft and graduate ANY SPs drafted in ANY round since 2015.   Of the 5 teams that DID draft and graduate pitchers (which includes the Angels), only ONE pitcher was a college first rounder.   That's 15 teams, 6 years of drafts and ONE pitcher that fits your criteria.
    Gonna go enjoy my day now.
  5. Like
    Yes We Can reacted to Jeremiah in Congratulations to Kim Ng   
    Indeed, he was, and rightfully so. I imagine that’s only a tiny fraction of the amount of BS Ng has dealt with in her career.
    https://www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=1665046
     
  6. Like
    Yes We Can reacted to khouse in Which prospects will Minasian trade?   
    Very true indeed. But, given his struggles this season...the interest will come from clubs thinking they can "buy low"...                                                                                                                                                                                            https://metsjunkies.com/2020/11/11/mets-trade-target-jo-adell/
  7. Like
    Yes We Can reacted to tdawg87 in Which prospects will Minasian trade?   
    Like every trade scenario, if there's a prospect we want to keep, then that's the prospect teams will want.
    The Bundy trade is an example of just how much we as fans hilariously overvalue our own prospects. Bundy was a sell-low candidate with a career 94 ERA+, and he cost FOUR pitching prospects. Whether you know their names or not is irrelevant, that's a pretty steep price. 
    The market is going to be weird as hell, as has been stated many times. If I were to venture a guess, I'd say the trade market is going to be incredibly active. If the Angels want to land a solid starter (or two, hopefully), I don't think Minasian is going to be able to dick around and offer the "Angelswin Special Package" of Rengifo, Maitan, Thaiss, and any prospect not named Adell, Marsh, Detmers, Adams, Rodriguez, or Kochanowicz.
    Hopefully though, he can work his magic and get as much return as possible without completely decimating the farm system.
    Though it needs to be stated, if we're gonna go another year without a MILB season, then who the hell knows if ANY prospects will have value.
  8. Like
    Yes We Can reacted to wopphil in Which prospects will Minasian trade?   
    Not Adell, his trade value took a huge hit this year. Hopefully not Marsh, we need him in case Adell’s suckage was real. 
    So everyone else. 
  9. Like
  10. Facepalm
    Yes We Can got a reaction from tdawg87 in Angels announce Perry Minasian as their next general manager   
    My point is exactly this. I think this strategy was a mistake. From 2015-2019 the Angels drafted only one pitcher in the first two rounds of the draft. I think if they had gone after more high level college pitchers the team would be in a better place.
  11. Facepalm
    Yes We Can got a reaction from tdawg87 in Angels announce Perry Minasian as their next general manager   
    I agree. 
  12. Facepalm
    Yes We Can got a reaction from tdawg87 in Angels announce Perry Minasian as their next general manager   
    My belief is a team needs to look for high end pitchers in the first two rounds. This is where nearly all of the drafted top of the order SP's are found. Every year is different and it's always going to be hit and miss. I'm not saying we shouldn't still go after toolsy teenagers but let's balance it out. In the five years prior to this most recent draft there were 10 picks in the top two rounds. Only one was a pitcher, Griffin Canning. And he is the only one of those 10 draft choices that has had a positive impact. If 5 of those picks were pitchers instead of only 1 the team would be in a better place in my opinion.
    So it's obvious you don't agree with my opinion, and I respect that. Others agree. That's how it works. Let's move on. Enjoy your day.
  13. Like
    Yes We Can got a reaction from Revad in Angels announce Perry Minasian as their next general manager   
    My belief is a team needs to look for high end pitchers in the first two rounds. This is where nearly all of the drafted top of the order SP's are found. Every year is different and it's always going to be hit and miss. I'm not saying we shouldn't still go after toolsy teenagers but let's balance it out. In the five years prior to this most recent draft there were 10 picks in the top two rounds. Only one was a pitcher, Griffin Canning. And he is the only one of those 10 draft choices that has had a positive impact. If 5 of those picks were pitchers instead of only 1 the team would be in a better place in my opinion.
    So it's obvious you don't agree with my opinion, and I respect that. Others agree. That's how it works. Let's move on. Enjoy your day.
  14. Like
    Yes We Can reacted to Revad in The Official 2020-2021 Hot Stove Offseason Thread   
    We could use Goodwin right now, maybe the trade was good (pitching!) and the replacement may well be as good or better but I liked Goody.
  15. Like
    Yes We Can reacted to Stradling in The Official 2020-2021 Hot Stove Offseason Thread   
    Yea, I don’t think you are getting much for Upton even if he waives his no trade clause and you eat a ton of his owed money, which he won’t do and we won’t do.  I am excited to see if Upton bounces back, since after his first 15-18 games this past year he was back to his normal self.  I think if 2020 was a full season he is somewhere between a 2-3 win player again even with that awful start.  
  16. Facepalm
    Yes We Can got a reaction from Stradling in Angels announce Perry Minasian as their next general manager   
    My belief is a team needs to look for high end pitchers in the first two rounds. This is where nearly all of the drafted top of the order SP's are found. Every year is different and it's always going to be hit and miss. I'm not saying we shouldn't still go after toolsy teenagers but let's balance it out. In the five years prior to this most recent draft there were 10 picks in the top two rounds. Only one was a pitcher, Griffin Canning. And he is the only one of those 10 draft choices that has had a positive impact. If 5 of those picks were pitchers instead of only 1 the team would be in a better place in my opinion.
    So it's obvious you don't agree with my opinion, and I respect that. Others agree. That's how it works. Let's move on. Enjoy your day.
  17. Like
    Yes We Can reacted to Blarg in Congratulations to Kim Ng   
    I really don't think the Angels missed out on any opportunities here. They culled known people that were working for clubs in positions that qualified them for the job. 
  18. Like
    Yes We Can reacted to Inside Pitch in Congratulations to Kim Ng   
    I think a lot of people had, it had been a while since she was even mentioned as a candidate...  I think when she took a job with MLB itself she likely fell off some front office peoples' radar.  Like everything else it may have been a case of what have you done for me lately.  Her not being a part of any one teams front office likely lowered her profile a bit.   
    I wonder if she had given up on getting that top spot and Jeter calling changed all that.  The end result is someone who was seen as highly capable is finally getting their shot, and MLB may have seen a glass ceiling shattered.
  19. Like
    Yes We Can reacted to eligrba in Congratulations to Kim Ng   
    I understand what you are saying...but please don't reduce what Jackie Robinson endured because he was black while being effing amazing at baseball.  He is in the hall of fame for many reasons including playing baseball.
  20. THIS!
    Yes We Can reacted to ukyah in Congratulations to Kim Ng   
    any profession that is so white male dominated as to have never had anything other than white males doing it should make those details pertinent.
    it mattered when a mexican bought a major sports professional sports franchise. it mattered the first time a black man was allowed into mlb, or as an nfl qb, or as an nfl head coach, etc. etc. and it matters now when an asian american female gets a position that no other asian or female has ever held before.
  21. THIS!
    Yes We Can reacted to Angelsjunky in Which prospects will Minasian trade?   
    No idea. We (or I) just don't know enough about Minasian to get a sense of his tactical approach. For instance, traditional scouting has always loved Adell over Marsh, but there's an argument to be made that Marsh is an equal or even slightly better prospect, especially after we saw the enormous holes in Adell's game. Minasian could sneakily prop up Adell as the Angels' premier prospect and act like he's willing to trade Marsh but not Adell, and then get something he really wants for Adell.
    I don't think he'll trade Detmers, Rodriguez, or Kochanowicz. Those are the Angels three best pitching prospects, and the first two could be on the big league club as soon as late next year. When your main need is quality club-controlled pitching, you just don't trade guys like that. Koch has tons of upside and hasn't pitched professional ball yet, so he's not someone you trade until you see how his arsenal translates.
    I also don't think he'll trade the really young position players like Ramirez, Vera, Paris, and Calabrese. Similarly with Koch, they need some or more minor league time to better assess their upside.
    I could see him packaging one of Marsh, Adell, or Adams, along with someone like Knowles or Deveaux and maybe Soriano or Suarez for a good young pitcher, or a Musgrove. But again, if he evaluates Adams and sees him as a future star, he might prefer to bargain hunt or stick to free agency.
    I personally hope the Angels don't trade any of their better prospects--say, Adell, Marsh, Detmers, Rodriguez, Koch, Vera, Ramirez, Paris, Calabrese--and go after free agents and bargain trades. Come July, they can make a package for a Musgrove or some other starter, if they need one. At that point we should have a better sense of a lot of our prospects.
  22. Like
    Yes We Can reacted to Chuck in Angels announce Perry Minasian as their next general manager   
    I agree with this and I hope that we see more of the same from this past amateur draft doing forward unless there's a can't miss bat that falls to us in the draft. 
  23. Like
    Yes We Can reacted to Warfarin in Angels announce Perry Minasian as their next general manager   
    Yep, agreed.  The Blue Jays and Braves both had rather strong scouting departments, and he was essentially #2 in command behind Anthropolous in ATL for 3 years.  Anthropolous is a fantastic PBO, so we can only hope that Minasian will bring the knowledge he has learned from Anthropolous to this team.
    I would like to see him hire AGMs from other teams (i.e. not ATL), though - guys who come from different systems and can probably provide him with a different perspective than he is used to.  Maybe poach a guy from TB/LAD/OAK, and then another guy from, say, MIN or CLE.  Would seem to be a good idea to have AGMs that come from other great organizations, so that he can surround himself with super knowledgeable AGMs who will likely come with somewhat different perspectives and viewpoints.
  24. Like
    Yes We Can reacted to Revad in Angels announce Perry Minasian as their next general manager   
    I hoping he can evaluate pitching, we could use that right now.
  25. Like
    Yes We Can reacted to Chuck in Angels announce Perry Minasian as their next general manager   
    Yes. 
    I believe Chris Rodriguez, Reid Detmers, Jack Kochanowicz, and Hector Yan will be dynamic for the Halos!
    Jose Soriano after he recovers from TJ surgery is right there too.
×
×
  • Create New...