Angels 1961

1 hour ago, stormngt said:

I currently I have much more confidence in Pujols bat than Ohtani.   However Ohtani does need to given leeway to snap out of his funk.  I just don't think it will be this year.

Thaiss needs to be given consistent playing time.  

Right now Thaiss does not have a spot to play. Walsh has made his statement to be the everyday 1B. 

2 hours ago, Angel said:

So age makes up for that uncanny valley between a minor league professional and Major League Ballplayer? Who's to say Thaiss isn't infinitely far away from being an average MLB infielder.  Like a lunar probe originally destined for the Moon is now set course for the nearest star, it should only take 80,000 years or so.

Not once has Thaiss looked even remotely as confident or talented as Walsh has the last week.  Time is not on our side to wait around and hope to see it.

 

The nearest to us besides our sun is roughly 4 light years away. Voyager travels at 38,000 MPH and it would take it roughly 70,000 years to reach Proxima Centauri 24 trillion miles away.

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

Dipoto, Eppler, Dipoto

Remember Walsh was like a 37th round pick, some scout most likely was in on him.

50 minutes ago, Stradling said:

The only thing I’ve read is Walsh saying he hasn’t pitched this year due to a shoulder issue but that he’d still like to try pitching next year. 

Stay away from the mound your career is at 1B.

On 9/10/2020 at 8:26 PM, Angelsjunky said:

Walsh has shown some stick since being called up. If I were Maddon I'd tell Thaiss and Ward to pick up a catcher's mitt again and say, "Whoever can handle catching duties halfway decently has a bench job next year." Either one would be more valuable as a multi-positional OF/1B/C.

Ward is 3rd catcher on team when active.

Big difference for Walsh A. getting to play everyday  B has cut way down on strikeouts  only 8 in 48 ab

7 hours ago, Warfarin said:

We have limited funds to use.  Relievers are volatile.  I'd much rather spend 20mil/yr on a SP like Bauer than 10mil/yr on a Hendriks or Treinen.

Sign Bauer, extend Bundy.  Install Mayers as the closer, for now, given his performance this year.  

Next year, the bullpen probably consists of Mayers, Pena, Buttrey, Middleton, Ramirez, Quijada, Reyes, Sandoval .. maybe, at some point, Yan.  There is potential there, but we should hope for internal improvement and progression.

Same old bullpen with disaster written all over it. You forgot Bedrosian and Bauer will cost more than 20 mill if Artie would even do that. Last year everybody all in on Cole and this year will be Bauer. I think best chance for upgrade in a starter is a trade. Gausman would be nice low budget free agent. 

Liam Hendriks is free agent, so is Blake Treinen. Buttrey was horrible second half last season. Mike Mayers has pitched well but bullpen has cost us a chance of playoffs. 

2 hours ago, Game 6 said:

The reason I don't think Simmons will get a QO is because I went through the exercise and did the math. The expiring contracts of Simmons, Teheran, La Stella, Castro and Goodwin free up $36.3 M. If they don't offer arbitration to Robles and Bedrosian they free up another $6.65 M so $43 M. I estimated pre-arb and arbitration at $13 M (most of it going to Bundy and Heaney) so the Angels have about $30 M to spend if the budget is the same in 2021 as it was in 2020.

If they pay Simba $18 M they have only $12 M left and as I said "they will not be able to effectively upgrade pitching."

You are right about the money but did halos still have money to spend this year? So Simba gone have 30 mill to spend do you put all eggs in 1 basket and go after Bauer? We need an ace. Could we trade for starter like a Lynn? We got Bundy last year for very little is it possible to find another pitching like that? Does Artie decide on Eppler right after season so new GM has chance getting in to do these things?

16 hours ago, Game 6 said:

If they pay Simmons $18 M next year they will not be able to effectively upgrade pitching. 

Losing Castro, Teheran, and Simmons was on books for 15 this and halos still had money to spend. Goodwin gone let some others go Robles and few others. They can find away with money if Artie wants too.

Walsh much better defensively than Thaiss. I just would like to use in house for 1B. OF Trout, Upton and RF be spot up for grabs. Maybe Adell takes or Ward. If Adell does not strat he may be in AAA to start season. I would have Ohtani as possible OF option as he played it in Japan. I would give Simmons QO and if he takes great if not Fletcher is SS. Key for me is Simmons if he stays most positions we have covered and use any money u have for pitching.

Could Walsh be the answer for 1B for now and the future? Another reason to sit Albert Pujols and give Walsh regular ABs.

11 hours ago, fanfromday1 said:

If you remember the first few years that the Angels were in LA they played a lot of day games and Double Headers. The reason being was that the Angeles were the only American League baseball team on the west coast back then. They were at least 2000 miles from their nearest rival. So when teams were scheduled to come to LA they usually need some extra time to get here. And when the series was over they needed extra time to return back home. Back then the American League scheduled a lot of off days and double headers for teams scheduled coming to the west coast.

Not many baseball teams flew back then. They mostly traveled by bus or train. Airplane travel was something new to baseball. And believe it or not, many players refused to fly.  

https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/jackie-jensen/

Here's a list of concession prices back then.
 

Eastside beer my boss at store I worked at in 1970 that was his beer. He would drive to Joe Josts bar and grill in Long Beach because they had Eastside on tap. That first year was magical sit in bleachers or be by fence in RF so close to field. My favorite team was 1962 in race in September that year. I was at Bo Belinsky's no hitter in May. Maybe 6,000 fans that night. 

2 hours ago, fanfromday1 said:

Me too (check out my screen name). Actually I've been an Angels baseball fan since the late 1940s when my dad use to take me to see the old 'PCL Angels' play in old Wrigley Field. When the Dodgers moved here in 1958 they bought the 'PCL Angel' team and moved my favorite team out of town. I really hated the Dodgers for that.

On the day after the Angels held their original 'Player Draft' in December of 1960, I could hardly wait to get my hands on the morning paper to see who they had selected. As I looked at the list I recognized very few names. I collected bubble-gum baseball cards back then, so I pulled them out and started sorting through them. I found some of the players, but not all. (Back then, the backs of baseball cards were the only way that a person could find out what a players baseball statistics were. Although during the baseball season the Sunday paper Sports section did list the top 100 players, or so. But this was December). Over the next few days I did a lot of trading of baseball cards with my friends so I could get more Angel players cards.

As Angels 1961 said, in Spring Training of 1961 the Angels players use to ride their bikes from their Hotel in Palm Springs to the practice fields with Gene Autry in the lead. The players hated the routine, and before long players started reporting that their bikes had mysteriously disappeared. Coincidentally, neighbors in Palm Springs started reporting that they were finding new red bicycles hidden in their hedges, or in alleys behind their houses. 

My dad and I attended the first ever Angels home game in 1961. Ty Cobb threw out the first pitch, and then died a week or so later. (I wonder if this was the first in the Angels long streak of having players die? Although they did only hire Cobb to throw just that one pitch). The Angels lost their inaugural home game to the Minnesota Twins 4-2. But I didn't care, the Angels were back home in LA again.

My brother and I attended many Angel home games that first summer. We took the 'Red Cars' up from the Long Beach, Compton area and got off in LA, and then walked a mile or so over to Wrigley Field. The games I remember the most were the games against the Yankees. Mantle and Maris were in a great Home Run chase that year and I wanted to see them hit one out of tiny Wrigley Field. Sadly, for me anyway, they didn't, not in the games I attended anyway. However, I did manage to snag a ball that Maris hit into the right field bleachers during batting practice.

So I guess you can say that I have been an Angel fan my whole life (75 yr.'s), although it was two different Angel teams.

  

I went to second home game and after losing 9 straight Angels won in 10 inn. Ken Hamlin hit game tying HR and they scored one more to win I believe 6 to 5. I can still see that ball going over the wall in LF. Hamlin hit maybe 4 or 5 HR in his career. I loved going to the Double Headers they had in those days. Buying peanuts outside the stadium for like 10 cents. They sold the newspaper that you could keep score on plus listed players. My mom would ride the Red Car to work. Long time ago but many memories.

41 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

Was there a defining moment that grabbed your attention or when you fell in love with baseball? What ultimately led to you becoming a fan of the #Angels or another team? 

I'll add mine below. 

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Mine was in the summer of 1979, I was 9-years old. My dad always had Angels games playing on the radio or on the TV. I fondly remember trips to the store or camping when my dad had the game on the radio. His reactions to what was going on in the game was loud & full of emotions.

I will never forget his passion when the Angels were in pursuit of their very first playoff berth in 1979 he would chant "Yes We Can. Yes We Can." That really tugged at my heart. I listened & watched every game from July through the playoffs that year. Was a fan ever since!

When Bobby Grich hit that walk-off home run against Yankees star lefty Ron Guidry on July 15th, I became a fan! The rest was history! Some 25 years later I built what became one of the most popular baseball fan sites on the net, AngelsWin.com.

What a fun ride! Go Halos!

I'd like to hear your story.

I was at that game Grich hit home run, still see Reggie Jackson drifting back on that ball.

December 1960, my dad and I became fans. We moved out here in 1958 and my dad was big Cleveland fan. At age of 8 he taught me to hate the Dodgers. So with new AL team coming to LA where we lived at the time that became our team. Went to many games in Wrigley field in downtown LA the first year. I remember Angel players riding bikes from hotel to spring training in Palm Springs. 1962 my favorite halo team with a bunch cast offs and young players. July 4 that year in first place. I've been a fan from day 1.

On 9/6/2020 at 12:31 PM, Inside Pitch said:

Rome wasn't built in a day, they are a work in progress.   Callaway has been fine, better than that -- he's been a huge improvement on White.... but he can't override the manager.

How long did it take to build Rome?

On 9/3/2020 at 11:52 AM, Pujols4MVP said:

They need to find a way to replace the production loss of Simmons, La Stella & Goodwin or add more pitching.

On paper the team in 2021 looks like they will be losing alot of games by a score of 2 to 12.

Offer Simmons a QO, Adell will replace Goodwin and Walsh for 1B

Jo Adell has a lot to still learn but has shown improvement of late. He has so much raw talent and athletic ability. I like the look on his face when he just missed robbing George Springer of HR in second game playing CF. The look showed me he can play and belongs in big leagues. Eppler maybe gone after this year but halo fans will always be thankful he did not trade Mr. Adell.

Both are doing on the job training and I feel will be successful. Great this season they are getting starts in that will only help them down the road. Both have upside and are young and I feel will be part of rotation next year and beyond.

Bauer wants to start every 4th day so let him. Wants 1 year deal that's great also. So pitching him every 4th day you would really be getting great value for your money.

15 hours ago, Hubs said:

Bauer / Bundy / Heaney / Ohtani / Canning / Barria with Sandoval / Detmers for depth is a good 6.

Later in the year Detmers takes over for someone.

Resign Simmons, Sign Bauer, Sign A Closer, Trade for a 2nd Rotation Piece, Sign a Catcher.

Cannot count on Ohtani pitching, if he comes back great. Last 4 years 80 inn

This  winter I sign Trevor Bauer, Liam Hendriks, Tommy Boy and give Simmons a QO.

Thanks Chuck for the ray of hope after all hope is a good thing. So let's get on with winning now and in 21.

You cannot put Ohtani as a lock for rotation. His arm issues go back to last year in Japan. If he comes back and pitches great but I do not see that happening. Ohtani has not looked good as a hitter this year so far. I can see halos trying him at 1B or OF as he could be answer for 1 of those positions. Maybe as Yankees did with the Babe,  Ohtani should be position player.