Mark PT

I never thought or even think that it is a bad idea to have someone warming up. To be able to have the flexibility to bring someone in at a moments notice, so to speak, is good. But I definitely think that today's game lacks the excitement that you get watching a pitcher overcome adversity and battle. Plus some guys excel in these situations. The problem is that the current crop of pitchers have never been placed in this situation and may not be able to handle it.

Toward the end, yes. It was sad to see how he lost his fastball in what seemed overnight.

This guy could be great if he learns a change up. Get Weaver in here to teach that ridiculous change he had.

This should be the slogan for the team! Someone write a song with this title and play it after the national anthem.

The problem, but check the stats is that these pitchers are taken out of game very quickly today whereas in prior decades, they were left in longer. So my guess is that a 4.00 ERA in today's game probably equates to a 5+ in past years. Plus, at least Angels pitchers, have obvious control issues and that seems to be systemic in this organization. Check the stats, it would be interesting to compare (I may be wrong) although I am not sure what stat would show this, maybe total innings pitched plus appearances.

For sure they will, I was not debating that. My point is that they should not be. And yes this is part over reaction but I do feel that none of these guys would make a roster in the 80s or prior.

I'll add, six pitchers that the majors should not see next year.

All of what you say is true but the bottom line is, outside of Suarez, there is not one bullpen piece that can control where he throws the ball. They are just hard throwers and not one pitcher. The people scouting and making personnel decisions are hot garbage.

this made the loss acceptable, thanks!

what does not cut it is every pitch being thrown down the middle. He is not a major league pitcher.

If they get the pitching that they have over the past 10 games, it is possible.

that's right. He did it after he counted to infinity, twice.

Chuck Norris kicked his butt.

All of them for Pujols. Sorry, had to.

Yes true but during that time he had a good pitching rotation that was already established from the previous regime. He has yet to build a good pitching rotation since being here. Is it his fault, I dont know. That was what I meant in the last comment.

the key phrase here is "one of the..."

It is now hard to evaluate GMs from the Angels. They have had so many in the past 10 years and all suck or do they? Can all these guys be failures or is Arte the problem?

That's true. And at least they have a descent chance of having good talent come into their system.

Not all prospects make it. Cant deny they must have great scouting. But to rid themselves of all their players that produce year in and out causes the results they have had. To make the playoffs as much as they have and have nothing to show for it (admit it is more then we have) is the result. The Angels suck because Arte does not believe in pitching, the A's win the division but cant make it past the division round. My initial response is obviously out of frustration but it must also be frustrating to be an A's fan,

You misunderstand what I mean. Yes they are run well but their ability to always hit on prospects is a joke. That makes them lucky. But yes they are run well.

Canning is, by far, the most disappointing pitcher they have. With that kind of stuff and to not be able to have major league control is a crime against humanity. I would hire Greg Maddox and force Canning to spend the entire offseason learning control.

Ya, that organization is the largest joke in all of sports. How your main strategy is to develop player, then get rid of them for prospects is nothing short of self-destructive. Yet it seems to work every time. To be able to hit on as many prospects as they do is a miracle

Most well run organizations know Bundy sucks and would not give anything for him. It was probably worth more to just keep him and hope he reproduced something remotely close to last year.

Ya, command is everything for this guy because none of his pitches are beyond average at best. HIs deception becomes useless without command. I personally would not bring him back as there is no room for error, as you mentioned.

This is what he is. In a good year he is a .400 - .500 ERA guy. In a COVID-shortend season he posted a .329. Outside of this he has a below average fastball and suspect control of all pitches.