GoodTimesGoneBad

45 minutes ago, eligrba said:

Pitching....the Angels need pitching.  For fucks sake, is it really that hard to understand?  McCann does nothing to address the most obvious and continuous issue the Angels have had for the past six years.

Wasn’t a serious suggestion but I’m glad you got worked up over it. 

1 hour ago, DMVol said:

McCann owed a lot more money and years than Upton....

I wasn’t serious but actually they’re owed about the same. Upton is due the remaining amount of 23M this year and 28M next year. McCann signed for 4 years 40M last offseason. 

Upton for McCann? Too soon? 

That’s all I have. 

Depending on how they all perform, I’d rather drop the QO on him, the Iglesias bros, and Heaney. Then turn around and sign Stroman and Gausman who won’t have the QO attached. This would drastically increase the talent level in the minors with all the extra picks and give us some breathing room if we sign Seager or Story. 

I would’ve liked the deal for the halos and there’s no denying he would have made the rotation better. My thoughts are maybe he didn’t want to play here, NY, or TOR and waited for an offer to play for a team in a more tax friendly state. 

Gausman and Stroman

It’s not really an obsession, it’s more like we’ve been down reclamation project road before (Teheran, Harvey, Cahill) and the only one who sorta worked out was Bundy and that was a short season playing against only west coast teams. To expect Cobb, Ohtani, and Quintana to be healthy all year and perform well is extremely optimistic. What’s wrong with having Canning in Salt Lake trying to improve on his game? I think he really only spent 1 full season in the minors. 

What people don’t realize is there is going to be a huge need for SP this year due to no one pitching more than 84 innings last year. The highest on the Angels was Heaney at 66 innings. Plus Ohtani hasn’t pitched in forever. Although Odorizzi was hurt last year, he has been one of the most durable pitchers in MLB over his career. 

1 hour ago, EdmontonAngelsFan said:

 

Yes please. 6 man rotation with Canning riding the shuttle to and from Salt Lake for when someone inevitably gets hurt. Just think, we would actually have good minor league SP depth for the first time in ages. 

1 hour ago, Angels 1961 said:

Angels need to sign Jeremy Jeffress

Shane Green

I’d like to see Odorizzi added so they can at least have a vet on the staff if Bundy walks. Detmers has never pitched in the minors and Rodriguez has been hurt a bunch. If they sign Odorizzi they can send Sandoval to AAA for regular reps and Barria to the pen as the long man/spot starter. It would also allow Ohtani to build up slowly. 
 

2021 would be Bundy, Odorizzi, Heaney, Quintana, Cobb, and Ohtani on Sundays. 
 

2022 is looking like Ohtani, Barria, Sandoval, ?, ?, ?

1 hour ago, floplag said:

2/20 feels high for him, but it is what it is i guess after other recent signings.
Youre not getting Odorizzi for less than 12 now i would think so 3/30 turns into 3/36-40.

Drew Smyly is making 11M this year, Kluber is making 11M this year, and GRich is making 10M this year. Even though these are 1 year deals, Walker is only making 7M next year which is basically what JAKE ARRIETA just got. It’s not an over pay. 

The Mets are paying 10M in 2021 and 7M in 2022 with a 3M buyout on a player’s option for 2023. I know they’re completely different pitchers but Walker has a better career ERA than both Odorizzi and Bauer. Great deal for the Mets. 

2/20M! Go offer Odorizzi the same deal and punch that Wild Card ticket. 

Walker to the Mets. 

Odorizzi. If the SP gives up too many runs you’ll never need the closer. Plus with MLB deadening the ball, Odorizzi could be comeback player of the year. 

Kela to SD. 

The Angels need to sign Odorizzi to a multi year deal. 

I like Odorizzi. Maybe 3/45? 

33 minutes ago, stormngt said:

For just one year.  It's been 7 years since li ast playoffs.  They are not getting any younger.

Both Rendon and Trout would get paid by almost all the teams.  And Rendon getting a ring for the nationals is meaningless to the Angels.   I am sure they both signed believing the Angel's will commit to build a championship quality team around them.  

Neither are getting any younger one year later.  It is the finger to both of them. 

Sure, it’s been 7 years and in that time they’ve made a consistent effort to get better even though it’s been clear for a while that a rebuild is necessary.

The Angels should’ve rebuilt after 2015 when it was pretty clear they wouldn’t be competitive for a while but they didn’t. Last year they were in the running for #1 draft pick and decided to go on a winning streak. 
 

1 hour ago, stormngt said:

So just give the middle finger to Trout and Rendon?

For one year yes. But they’re also getting paid and Rendon already has a ring so...

7 hours ago, Stradling said:

 

I’m not hating this deal. Looks similar to Joc But for 5M less. 

Here’s what I think is going on. The Angels are going to punt this season. They are only signing people to one year deals with the hope of having a fire sale mid year. Minasian wants to rebuild from the ground up and wants to stock the farm. If they graduate Detmers, Rodriguez, and Adell this year the farm is going to look pretty barren. 
 

I’m not necessarily against this plan if it means competing in 2022 but I hope it doesn’t continue next offseason. 
 

Great deal for the Cubs. Looks like they are going to give him the chance to play every day instead of platooning him. Don’t think the halos would have done this so it makes sense for Joc. Pillar here we come.