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    Will Eppler Panic?

    in LA Angels | MLB Daily

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    Just now, floplag said:

    Obvious joke aside, I dont get the Puig hate, i would be totally fine with him on a 1 yr deal to plug the gap till Adell or Marsh are ready.   Id rather do that than sink a bunch into Castellanos. 

    Yup, he's a guaranteed .260, 20+HRs, fine D, superb arm guy who is relatively healthy. I don't hate him at all.

    He was a clubhouse cancer in his younger age but he seemed to be pretty good presence in clubhouse for past 3 seasons. 

    I'm also down for Puig for 1-2yr contract especially if the price tag is reasonable.

    Just go for offense?

    in LA Angels | MLB Daily

    Posted

    4 minutes ago, Stradling said:

    This team's bench is far from the problem.  It needs pitching, pitching, pitching a catcher and for Thaiss or La Stella to play well enough to relegate Albert to the bench.  

    Yes I mentioned starting pitching is priority. Problem is, the best options are already gone and Angels better seek for trades or sign risky guys (like Ryu) at this point.

    If you think this team's bench is not a problem, you are delusional. Look at those bench guys. Rengifo, Thaiss, Tovar, Walsh, Bemboom, Stassi, Ward, etc. Every single on of them has WAR between negative and 1, posting OPS+ way below 100. Every competitive teams have multiple guys who can be a regular starters in weak teams in the bench and this team has none of them. Actually many of them are guys we shouldn't even see in ML opening roster if you want to see the Angels shooting for PS appearance.

    I know Thaiss is future 1B prospect that the Angels has been pushing for. He's turning 25 and still has potential to be better, but you can't just expect a guy who just batted 0.211 and posted 0.7WAR to immediately become solid regular starting 1B just because he is only 25 and EVEN IF he does, Albert being the best player in the bench means this team's bench is garbage.

     

    Just go for offense?

    in LA Angels | MLB Daily

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    well this team needs major upgrades in C,1B,and bench. They were just not priority cuz their starting pitching was the worst in the league (29th in ERA, 30th in Innings pitched)

    Now that 3 top starting pitchers are off the market and there are only declining pitchers and injury prones left out there, I guess it's better to sign bats to add more firepower (especially middle of order. We can't have Pujols in the middle of lineup and expect to compete) and add more depth in the bench too.

    Look at the teams we need to compete for the title. AssTrolls, Doyers, Junkies, any team in the Post season this year has better bench players or platoon guys than Angels' regular starter. Angels bench was just filled with AA or AAA players who bat way below Mendoza line and some of em were even batting below .100. Even worse thing is, due to a lot of injuries this team had (just like past 5 seasons), those AA guys were starting majority of games in the 2nd half of the season and it's becoming a trend for this team. 

    Angels need to seek for bench/platoon guys who can actually provide something positive for the team, not those minor leaguers who just plays out there and post negative WAR and bat .150

    Plan B: What do you think the best option for the Angels is now?

    in LA Angels | MLB Daily

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    7 minutes ago, Sean-Regan said:

    What realistically is the path forward right now?

    The Angels have a lot of questions on offense. Can La Stella repeat? Can Upton and Simmons rebound? Will Pujols play every day if healthy? Will Adell even be ready this year? Will any of the young players like Thaiss or Rengifo become solid enough major leaguers any time soon?

    Pitching is even worse. How will Ohtani do this season coming off TJS? Can Heaney ever actually stay healthy? Will Canning be able to take the next step? Any of the other guys? Is Bundy just a meh pitcher or will getting out of the AL East and having Callaway as a coach help him take it to the next level?

    The options for improving the team are old and will cost a lot of either money or prospects. If we spend prospects, we're putting a huge risk into being able to compete the next few years. You have to have young, cheap talent - that's what we haven't had the last five years. 

    But if we invest big in guys like Rendon and Ryu (or worse, Bumgarner or Keuchel) - the pitchers named are the kind of guys who fall apart at this age, which puts our payroll flexibility in huge trouble.

    We can probably improve the team in 2020 by getting some of these guys. Here's the problem: Short-term, none of them will be enough. Rendon doesn't make our offense top of the league by himself, especially if any of our question marks become problems (Simmons or Upton don't bounce back, La Stella sucks, Adell doesn't figure it out).

    While we can probably improve enough to make the Wild Card, what then? We aren't nearly good enough to beat the Yankees. 

    Spending 200+m on Rendon only makes sense for the next 2-3 years. Who is going to pitch those years? We'd be betting big on our guys in the minors working out or risking everything by trading them for impact guys. 

    With Cole, we would've had that frontline guy to build around. It would've given us a shot. Without him? I don't know how we can match up against teams like NY or LA in the next few years, regardless of what moves we make. 

    But if we sell, Trout's chance at a championship with us is over. 

    I wish someone could show me a feasible path that actually accounts for how to make the team good enough in the next 2 years without pulling a Dipoto, because I just can't see it.

    100% agreed, and sadly and frankly, I think a lot of answers to your questions are most likely to be "no". That's what makes it worse.

    Plan B: What do you think the best option for the Angels is now?

    in LA Angels | MLB Daily

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    1 minute ago, Angels_Fan said:

    None of those options are ideal. But that's why Eppler needs to sign Rendon (who will provide 5-6 WAR) and sign or acquire via trade another two starters plus upgrade at catcher.

    Maybe Ohtani can be that ace we need, even with only 25 starts per year...

    Yes now Rendon is a must. If they can't get him, they better not give old, injury plagued starting pitchers 3+ year contracts and just tank.

    I'm not down with that maybe Ohtani can be the ace scenario. If he does, that's good. But I don't think we can assume he will be, especially when he is coming back from TJS and had whole year off from pitching.

    2015-2019, Angel fans have been saying "maybe we are good if guys are healthy next year", "maybe we are good if pujols bounces back", "maybe we good something something" and every single year this team has been sending entire pitching crew to DL and this team has been getting like 0-1 guy who pitches over 160 innings (and even those guys sucked like Nolasco) + pujols is never bouncing back.

     

    Plan B: What do you think the best option for the Angels is now?

    in LA Angels | MLB Daily

    Posted

    smfh honestly, I don't think any option out there will make the Angels contender.

    Seriously Ryu? he had 1 great year right before his contract yr after spending 60% of his time in Majors in DL.

    MadBum is posting 5+ ERA outside of Oracle and is way over 30 YO and he is officially demanding 9 figure contract, which makes 0 sense.

    All of our current starters either suck, or are injury prones. 

    Maybe just tank until this team can get rid of Puljos and try again

    The Angels' Problems Run Deeper Than Starting Pitching

    in LA Angels | MLB Daily

    Posted

    4 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

    I don't think we're getting "bats", outside of a catcher (a cheap one). But Cole and another pitcher is probably Plan A.

    If we don't add any bats, then I don't think we will see the Angels competing for the championship unless we add like 3 great pitchers and build a starting rotation like Dodgers and Astros.

    This team was ranked 15th in runs scored, 18th in batting avg, 18th in HRs, and 14th in OPS and that is very mediocre numbers even with the presence of Mike Trout.

    EVEN IF Upton bounces back, Pujols' decline stops, Simba is free from injury and plays like he did in 2017 and 2018, Adell immediately plays well in Majors, Angels offense isn't as good as Yankees', Dodgers', and Astros'. You know that is a lot of positive assumptions and it is likely to be worse in reality. This is not an NBA where mediocre teams make the Play offs and get to the knock out stage. MLB only has 8 PS spots and you have to be top 10 just to play 1 game Wild Card. Sadly, you can't expect your team to have half of the line up batting below .250 and contend for the title. 

    Starting rotation is so terribly bad but that doesn't mean Angels have enough fire power to compete now. They need massive help on the rotation and at least couple of bats (including a starting catcher like you said) to buff up the offense. And to me, it is very difficult task for Eppler cuz this team is already spending a lot (mostly on aging talents)

     

    The Angels' Problems Run Deeper Than Starting Pitching

    in LA Angels | MLB Daily

    Posted

    26 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

    What about adding Cole, Ohtani and another pitcher to the rotation?

    Also how do you know the offense will stay the same? 

    This team is already ranked 6th in MLB in team salary. Adding Gerrit Cole means this team offered him multi year contract that pays him at least $25M on avg, and adding another pitcher to the rotation + bats to the lineup means Arte has to spend over $250M next year and looking at how he's been filling up the roster in past seasons, I thought that is very unlikely. If Arte goes all in and decides to spend to bring more starters and bats, I'll be glad.

    The Angels' Problems Run Deeper Than Starting Pitching

    in LA Angels | MLB Daily

    Posted

    Yup this team simply lacks talents. Not just a sabermatrix like WAR, but look at classic stats as well. Bunch of starters between ERA of 4.5~7.0 and the bottom of line up all batting under .250. If you take a look at championship contenders like Astros, Yankees, Dodgers, etc, they have great core players AND solid players around them + good players off the bench that adds depth to the line up. Angels have great core players like Trout, Simmons(defensively) and Ohtani (if healthy) but they don't have any support around them.

    If you look at the Angels, guys that produce way less than those bench guys and platoon guys are starting everyday and even hitting in the middle of lineup which gives you clear idea of why this team has been losing 5 straight seasons. This team's starting pitching is horrible, yes, they are ranked 28th in ERA and 30th in QS provided. But adding Gerrit Cole to that will improve horrible rotation to bad rotation and mediocre offense will stay the same, means this team will be around 75~80 wins anyways. 

     

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