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I didn’t say he was reliably an elite player.  I said he is a quality starting pitcher.  You are going to have a really hard time saying he isn’t a quality starting pitcher.  He would be the Angels #1.  If he isn’t a quality starting pitcher then you are saying the Angels have zero quality starting pitchers.  And I would disagree.
Snell would be the #1 or #2 on most teams.  Maybe a #3 on a truly elite rotation.
I fully understand the ways to pick him apart.  But you can find things to be concerned about on almost every starting pitcher.
The biggest knock on Snell is “he is a 5 inning pitcher.”
Well, so is almost everybody.
“Of the 117 starters who threw at least 100 innings last season, 13 averaged more than six innings per start (with a high of 6.6 from Marlins Sandy Alcántara, and 12 averaged fewer than five (with a low of 4.6 from Luke Weaver). Everyone else is clustered into the narrow five-to-six range.”
Baseball itself has evolved into strategic equations, where, like it or not, they expect 5-6 innings from the starter.
Snell averaged 5.625 innings per start last year.  Basically 5 2/3.
He is delivering what the equation asks for.
The Angels just built a bullpen set up to be a great fit for the “equation” of starters basically getting through the lineup twice and then going to the bullpen.
I would even be tempted to put money on Snell leading the Angel starters in innings.
He is definitely a quality starting pitcher, unless your definition of quality is “special” or “elite” or “true ace every year.”
 

More like most teams recognize he is a quality starting pitcher that absolutely can help them but the asking price right now is higher than they would like to pay.

Arte is an idiot for overpaying for free agents out of foolish desperation.  The guy has no discipline.
Arte is an idiot for not just signing Snell for his asking price.  The guy is a cheap bastard.

Sorry bud it is Arte’s fault. Those are the rules. 

Word is Snell wants an opt out after every game.

Exactly. Moreno sucks but not wanting to pay Davis almost 7 million isn’t evidence of that.  No team wanted to pay him that much.

Me?

Nobody hates the Dodgers more than I do.  I was just comparing the Angels to an obvious local team than wins far more games and controls far more talent on their roster and in their minor league system.
I would agree the Braves are a well run team too.
Heck I like how the Padres are willing to make bold moves.  I would take that too.
But the bottom line is I really want the Angels to find a way to be among to top 20% of teams in terms of drafting and developing players.  Things seem better recently but I suspect the Angels need changes at the very top to really approach what I would ideally like to see.

Eggs. It’s eggs. 

Very cool.  Here is mine from 1980:

Very cool.  Here is mine from 1980:

Very cool.  Here is mine from 1980:

Just for the record, I think Moreno isn’t the right owner for this team.  I would prefer that he sell the team to somebody else that would run it more like the Dodgers are run.
I am excited that baseball is starting again but this exact roster isn’t very exciting to me.  The optimist does see that there is some real upside that could materialize and make them much better than expected (and subsequently far more exciting).
But my enthusiasm is very guarded and reserved until I see something materializing on the field.
 

To break up all the Snell talk, check out this sick vintage Angels jacket I scored on eBay. 

Exactly. Moreno sucks but not wanting to pay Davis almost 7 million isn’t evidence of that.  No team wanted to pay him that much.

I guess they didn't want to pay him 7 million or whatever. No other team did.

If he threw 60 pitches, that was definitely a “simulated” four innings.  Reality would have been 80 pitches.

Boras is feeding any and all true things, and any and all untrue things, that will help posture his client to get the best contract.

I must admit, I get a little tired of hearing anything about how the "Dodgers are run."  They've won one WS in a Covid shortened year despite all the money they spend and all the talent they develop. 
Yes, I'd take all of that for the Angels in a heart-beat, but the Dodgers aren't the end-all, be-all in baseball.  The Braves are just as successful.  The Astros (yes, I know) are more successful.  F the Dodgers.
Baseball is hard. 
If anything, I'd like to see a change in the organizational culture.  The Angels seem to be dysfunctional.  When Stoneman and Scioscia came to Anaheim they changed the culture.  The culture has gone down hill ever since they lost autonomy. That's on Arte. 
 

The worst thing about "all things Angels" is that more and more fans are becoming apathetic.
The organization has taken a giant step backward.
Thank goodness, they still have Mike Trout or it could be worse.

We sure don't.
I get that. 
Arte could surprise us all in the end, but I think most of us are skeptical of that possibility.  It's getting close to opening day.  The way the team is presently constructed just doesn't inspire much confidence from a fan's point of view.  It's still baseball and surprises happen all the time.  I think a lot of fans have baseball fatigue and the season hasn't even started.