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Can we stop these kinds of posts... seriously.. the Dodgers had another year better than any we have had in recent history if not our entiire history and there isnt a fan of this team or a player on it that wouldnt have traded seasons... 
Yeah, they are out early, at least they got there, at least they played meaningful games for 2 months longer than we did. 
These posts are just silly. 
Hate em, thats fine, but they wont this round, again

Its a tough one, i thin k its Acuna but its close.
Acuna led his team in virtually every category... Betts/Freeman split them largely. 
Betts versatility gives hm the edge over Freeman to me, but i put Acuna #1, Betts #2, Freeman #3

1 hour ago, cals said:

Fucking @floplag.  Good shit man.

Glad you got a laugh... whats the matter cant find anyone not of the hive mind to argue with anymore? 

19 hours ago, cals said:

I’m still waiting for @floplag to respond to @Taylor

Pull up a chair youll be waitng a very long time.  I gave up on this forum years ago and youre still necroing this shit? 
do me a favor, hold your breath ill get right on it.... 

A short drive up the I-5 has been my guess since last off season. 
He picked us for the market, and the fact that we could give him both way play, now so can they. 

This is part of the problem i had at the deadline... the only path to success is to go after the top FA this off season, the problem with that is all the top guys have massive risks. 
As people have said Snell has never been consistent with how many innings pitched and such, so even if hes the best available is that a good thing?  
And thats before we get to guy having career years in a contract year.
The only path really open to us is so fraught with risk its almost not worht even doing. 

i would prefer top see this move to 1B personally.   He likely has the athleticism to pull it off, and the size.  I do feel that if hes not going to pitch then playing the field should be on the menu instead of full time DH only to open up options on the roster for 24, assuming he stays of course

There is only one person who can answer this, Arte, and he never answers anything. 
I see two options that are polar opposites, and neither is following the plan that has been in place which has failed, but hats all speculation till Arte decides who he wants to be moving forward as an owner, or if he wants to be at all. 

Part of me still thinks he will sell but it was delayed as no new owner wanted to be the guy that lost Ohtnai and/or traded Trout.. so Arte might be the bad guy that gets the golden parachute and thew new owner the savior, but perhaps thats wishful thinking. . 

18 minutes ago, Duren, Duren said:

Losing Trout and Ohtani within the same off season window would be disastrous for the image of the franchise. Which affects income as well as the standings. 

When I was at the game on Friday it was a very big crowd. Sure, the jersey giveaway was a factor. But I spoke to a number of fans and listened to various conversations. Most were/are loyal, disappointed at the losing and injuries. But still engaged in the actual game play. Groaning at the fielding, on their feet for O'hoppe's homer. It's still a summer pastime. Everyone wants a winning team and hope for the future. And sad but resigned to probably losing Ohtani. 

But losing Trout too is the only dynamic I see shaking the foundation of fandom. Even past his prime he still was on a solid power trajectory. And he's young enough to improve on some of his other numbers. Not MVP level but above average. Especially if fully healthy and rested. Regardless, he deserves to call his own shots. He's earned that. 

More than it already is from a PR standpoint?
Maybe it needs to get shaken... it isnt just about one guy, its about winning, and were not doing that.  If Arte isnt going to do what it takes then whats the point of locking Trout into insignificance in baseball history?  Hes given his all to this club, maybe we need to do him a solid.
Whatever the issues are this club needs a reset worse than any ive ever seen in 50 years watching this game.  Were a literal laughing stock even with Trout and Ohtani, how could it get worse without them? 

1 hour ago, Swordsman78 said:

IT would be nice if Trout came out and renewed his commitment to the Angels.   Trout Leaving it open ended is causing all the media fodder. Silence =consent.

He has already said there will be conversations, what did you think they would be about? 
Its literally the first time i can recall that he didnt do exactly as you said, thats telling. 
No one wants to believe or even consider that the club might open next year without Ohtani or Trout, but right now i would say thats maybe 50/50 in terms of chances.

Weve already hit it for me.

So many mistakes, mismanagement issues, seemingly running on a laptop instead of actual baseball knowledge, where does it even end?  Ive been a fan since the late 70s, and ive never been lower on this team or the game as a whole than i am now. 

I would rather go back to the little market Autry days than continue this pathetic disgrace of the last few years. 

Seeing Trout and Ohtani play, in loss after loss, does absolutely nothing for me. 

There are a solid handful of good stories left, Atl and a few more, but half the league is openly tanking and the other half is playing moneyball.

The business of baseball has ruined the game of baseball, and our owner is a pure businessman. 

I dont know if its true or not, but it should be.

59 minutes ago, Blarg said:

This is the worst Haiku ever.

Thanks for the reminder.
Peace 

7 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Although I understand that some form of automated strike zone is coming, I just want to make sure you guys understand that umpires today are actually the best they’ve ever been. 
 

It seems like they are worse because before we didn’t have the technology to evaluate them at all. 
 

But go on YouTube and watch a game from the 20th century sometime. 

This is so true... its hardly a new thing. 

I have always hated this, but id be lying if i said the quality of late supported my argument.
I wonder though the impact it would have on the game as, lets be real, no ump is calling the right strike zone on high pitches... that would change literally every batters swings. 

Nevin is not the problem.. unfortunately hes also not the solution. 

One one hand, yeah, you love to see it... someone that actually gives a damn. 
On the other, its a really really poor look for the franchise that he has to do that. 
Im not going to play the they are professionals thing... it goes without saying, but i also recall a scene towards the end of the old "North Dallas Forty" movie where a player went off saying it still needs to be a game over a business... and quite frankly i think thats where a lot of these guys are.
The joy of the game just looks... gone.  Trout was a different guy in the WBC than he was when he got back for example, and i think losing, falling short, whatever you want to call it has taken a toll on these guys.
Blame whatever, injuries, ... it doesnt matter really the outcome is the same.
I dont know if they are disheartened, tired, given up checked out or just beaten down by this seasons failures and maybe more than just the season for many of them.
Something needs to change... something MUST change

Why?  You need Canning to start on Wed, what are the going to do blow him ion relief and then have to recall Rosenberg or someone else to start?
Sometimes our roster management makes absolutely no sense. 

i cannot make that time but ill pour one out for them at that hour in their honor. 

14 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Is it really about replacing his production or improving the overall production of the team?  We can get 75% of Ohtani by signing Belinger and Giolito.  Then you need to have less than dog shit from the catching position, less than shit from 1st base, less than dog shit from middle relief and 5-6th starters, then you need to improve health, if that is a thing.  Without internal improvements it really doesn’t matter.  

For once we are dead on the same page. 
Replacing Ohtani without addressing other issues is an utter waste of time and a zero sum equation. 
I might look other than Belinger but conceptually, yeah.

6 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

We answered this topic/question pretty easily on our podcast last night. 

 

 

Havent had a chance to listen yet, care to quick summarize? 

Queue bad Nolan Ryan takes or various scenes from Moneyball...
Short answer, you dont, you move on as best you can. 

24 minutes ago, Torridd said:

Has anyone heard anything of late? Why don't the Angels give at least semi-regular updates? I mean, these are supposedly our starters.

Rendon is what it is but the fact weve heard nothing on Stassi is.. odd. 

28 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Bingo.

Yes, I am able to look at, and make a judgment on, the condition of the roster independent of the standings.

 

So how that roster performs against others doesn't enter into it.. got it, enjoy. 

15 minutes ago, Revad said:

I think people are underestimating our chances next year.  

We have no clue what the roster will even look like next year right now.  We have like 10 guys on the 25 man looking at being UFA.
Assuming anything about next year right now makes little sense.