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Sorry missed the fWAR reference... but agree with you - with Ohtani as the lone "pilot program", I think fWAR has room for improvement... wrt downside of combining elements vs. two seperate players... I get where you're going and I don't disagree.... but don't discount the added value of having a whole other roster spot to address another need on your roster....

Angels baseball anyway...

With all due respect AJ - I guess you have to start with some baseline... but as far as I know, WAR stats don't consider Ohtani's pitching impact... I think his value baseline starts in absolute terms in both an offensive perspective AND a pitching perspective: If you compare Ohtani's impact, on the offensive side alone, to his peers (and don't even consider that he's no slouch on defense at 1B/OF) - wouldn't he EASILY slot in as a bargain at $30M/yr...?? (Think about relative value: He's not worth $10M less than Judge/yr or $8M less than Rendon or $2M less than Stanton or Cabrera (both old DHs) per year)...! Add on top of that his value solely as a pitcher the last two years - and he's a bargain at $30M/yr...!!! (he's not $13M less than Verlander/Scherzer or $6M less than Cole)....!!! Combine those values and that's a BARGAIN at $60M...!!! And all of the: "he-can't-do-both-forever"... sure... okay... but he is now... and he's likely to be able to do both for at least half of a 10 year contract given his age - he'll always hit... and if/when he shows some wear and tear as an SP - you can move to the bully as a top-flight reliever (with his make-up - I wouldn't bet against him as a nails closer!)... that kind of flexibility exists - all of nowhere... Dude has no comp...

I don't understand all of the enthusiasm and interest in moving Rengifo... What I saw from him last year - I want to keep in our lineup for a long time...

Seriously, Adell is two years from being MLB ready…, he was so rushed….

F Stassi… O’Hoppe better see the lions share of the C AB’s…!!!!!

Minasian putting in WORK!!!! Great get…!!!

uh... except Gio can actually hit...

You're wrong...

Move heaven and earth to get this done... Victor is: 1 - All class 2 - Very knowledgeable on all facets of the game (field, front office, personnel, etc) 3 - One of the best (I personnally think he's THE best, but I'll leave a small margin for bias) PBP guys in the biz. No worse than top 3... 4 - The chemistry between he and Gubby is fantastic - and amplifies both of their personas! 5 - He's got real Angel pedigree... When he was here, it felt like he really embraced the organization - he wasn't just punching a clock..

oooh... Chuck - you just reminded me how sad and painful it was to have to see Walsh in the lineup... man - I really hope he can turn it around next year - I like the dude, but our offense can't have that big of a void at a corner IF position (eh-hem: you hear that Glass Rendon...?!?!?!?!?)... We've got to improve our lineup first... with consistency as the top priority...

I often wonder how much the 6-man rotation impacts potential FA pitchers from signing with the Angels... The situation seemed perfect for Thor last year coming off of surgery (might still be good for him this year) and maybe for a guy like Verlander... But I can see a lot of guys having a negative impression of it...

My two favorites: K. Escobar and B. Abreu... Both those guys were nails for us for a few years....

When you get to October - it doesn't matter what your win total is... it's always about how hot you are heading into the playoffs... and you always need a break or two...

In fairness however, Marsh was responsible for half of that strikeout total...

That sure smells like Buzzie Bavasi logic... "Why would I sign Nolan Ryan when I can get two 8-7 pitchers for a fraction of the cost"...

I remember this dude named Steinbrenner... Just sayin...

10 more years of nothing-worthwhile-from-Albert sounds awesome! Albert - don't go away mad... just go away... And quit sponging money off my Halos...

The only problem I have with the list is that none of the WAR stats accurately value Ohtani... That needs to be fixed...

For me it's not even a close discussion... 1.04 WHIP, 2.4 ERA, .900 OPS... Judge is having a great season for a power hitter (albeit on a little league field). He CAN NOT impact the game in a more meaningful way than Shohei... There's no argument beyond: "well, we want to mix it up this year and give it to someone else".... or "Shohei has an "unfair" advantage as a pitcher"... or "but the HR record is such a hallowed record we have to acknowledge the feat somehow"... Judge is not even an elite fielder (which is kind of amazing really when you consider he only has to cover ground about the size of your living room)... Who is the league's "Most Valuable Player"... uh - Shohei...

Uh... Why does it feel like Glass just ripped off Salt-n-Peppa...? Rendon said on Monday. “That’s what I was pushing for the whole time. I’m going to push myself, push myself. I’m going to have them push me, push me. And if it works, we’re going to listen to my body. If it doesn’t feel good, we’ll pull it back. We’re just going to push as much as my body will take.” Are we not working on phrasing anymore...?

If he's had one clutch hit for StL since returning... the answer is "YES"...

That'll happen when you draft nothing but pitchers in a single draft... But I agree with your point: Minasian deserves credit for the recent improvement in our minor league depth through drafts and trades...

“You can’t be really mad up here,” he said. “Even when you’re playing bad, you’re still in the big leagues." As a fan, I can't get down with a dude that approaches the game like this... Mediocrity CAN'T be the goal... I want to support dudes that are chasing hardware....

That's really impressive... 1) 6 out of 15 may not impress TG... but don't tell the 2002 WS champs where their rotation landed... 2) The #6 staff, with the #6 offense should put you square in the playoff hunt... 3) Unfortunately, that ERA includes Thor and Iglesies, whom we'll need to backfill for... so yeah - we will still need pitching...