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My man… yeah, in my God given opinion, this would be something that could only help the effed up mentality, culture of this worst-in-sports franchise. Everything else has been tried.  Yeah, the TB Rays could teach our Angels a whole lot about winning. 

Arozarena plays with a boyish enthusiasm that would help this team, help them play more relaxed and maybe even have fun out there. I think this team plays too uptight with the stress of having to make the playoffs. I would love adding Arozarena to this roster. 

Rendon would likely get hurt on the way to the required physical. 

3 hours ago, Stradling said:

So explain this to everyone.  What have you seen from O’Hoppe that says he’s a leader. What haven’t you seen from Trout that tells you he isn’t?

It’s my hope that O’Hoppe becomes the leader of this team in future seasons. It showed me a lot when Logan came back from the surgical procedure on his shoulder this season. To me, it’s not a good example to the rest of the team when you break a small bone in your hand and you call it a season.
Or fouling off a baseball off your shin and doing the same. As a damn Angels fan that’s all we have is these small slivers of hope going forward. 

9 hours ago, Angels 1961 said:

Mike Trout stay or if he goes would be mutual agreement by him and Angels. No matter what happens I will always remember Mike Trout as a class act. Taking time to sign autographs for so many kids. He has and is a great ambassador for the game of baseball. Last three years being hurt has lowered his overall numbers he will end up with. Those are just that numbers and not his true meaning for him as what he has done for this game. I have mixed feelings about him staying and leaving as a fan. I would truly love him to stay and win with Angels. After 8 losing seasons have a hard time seeing that happening. I would also like to see him in playoffs so to do that he might have to leave. Ohtani will be gone after this season and maybe opening up DH will help Mike and others next season. If he stays he can help the many young players halos now have. Wherever he ends up never change Mike as you mean a lot to this game.

Wow ‘61, I’ve been really critical of Trout this season. I can’t, however, disagree with your post. Trout has had all the baseball-talent a man can be born with. Trout to me doesn’t seem to have that leadership quality to him, or at least it doesn’t seem to be there.  Someone else needs to grab this team by the horns and take over. I’m impressed with O’Hoppe and certainly hope he can take the reins and be the young leader of this team. O’Hoppe seems to have that hunger that very often is thoroughly extinguished with a huge contract. 

It seems the more of artie’s money that you have to go deposit, the more injury prone you are. 
Just in time to catch the eagles games. All the talent in the world, can’t win. 

Perry is going to go down as the GM that had TWO of the best players of their generation and they accomplished dick.  Last year they led the majors in strikeouts by a comfortable margin.  I mean, it's hard to bring a guy in with a lead off double by continuously striking out.  Yeah, they fired Reed as the hitting coach.  This year, they have only slightly improved in that area.  This season the pitching staff seems to have regressed, I mean one of the starters should have had something resembling a breakout season.  That will be addressed when exactly?  He may be a good GM to some, my problem is... there are too many GM's out there that are much better at their jobs.   

I’ve posted elsewhere that Trout is simply not clutch, in no way is he clutch. If something like control of the clubhouse tv remote was on the line, Trout would strike out.  Yeah, his first 8 or 9 seasons it’s a no-brainer, but these past few seasons?  He’s good to go yard when the game is decided and there’s no one on base. 
let another team take on the huge contract with a player who’s best years are in the books… for a change. 

How about addressing the cancer on this team??  Everyone on this board knows who that cancer is. You don’t need a baseball-oncologist to figure it out. 

10 minutes ago, TroutField said:

I keep wondering where rock bottom is for this franchise, but each day they find new and better ways to continue to sink further. 
 

trading Trout, the best Angel to ever live, after pulling that contract out of their ass to keep him here… I mean I dislike Arte Moreno as is but Jesus Christ… i get fandom is about a team and not about one player but I would have a very hard time continuing to be a fan of this franchise if they traded him. 

Hey TF you’re not the only one with those thoughts. I keep telling myself that I need to prepare for more as this organization has no rock bottom. 

Oh, well shit, there’s hope for the ‘24 season after all!  And all along I thought of him as a cancerous tumor spreading to other parts of the clubhouse. 

Trout was the best player on the planet for 8+ years. His best years are clearly behind him. As I’ve mentioned in another post, ‘winning’ is just not something he brings to his game. For being the game’s premier player, he is and will be financially rewarded to the point that his grandchildren will be set. Like it or not, Trout and this organization are tied together as no team will take on that contract. Lord, is there a more effed-up situation in all of sports?

Trout has a serious case of Rendonitis, likely a very bad case of it.  There seems to be no known cure. Luckily for Trout, it’s just in time for him to watch his eagles even the preseason. Regardless, winning yes the act of winning eludes Trout. It always will. Some guys are somehow born with that intangible quality and while he was born with extraordinary physical attributes, winning is just not part of his makeup.
This organization is so effed. 

just clean house. Getting rid of that cancer-rendon would be an amazing start. Beginning with the scouts and those responsible for player-development.  Teams like the Atlanta Braves show how there’s baseball organizations that are highly competent at finding talent. At least that would be my hope for the ‘26 season and beyond. . 

1 hour ago, T-angel said:

Missed the last third of the game, can anyone tell me if anyone on the blue Jays was at least brushed back or hit 1) for Chapman's comments yesterday and  2) in retaliation for Ward?

I don't think the Jays intentionally hit Ward, but they intentionally pitched high and tight to get in the hitters heads when they had base runners on. The Jays wanted it more and were willing to absorb the collateral damage of hitting someone to do it.

If it takes a bean ball game to take the next one tomorrow the Angels should prepare to do it. They need to be pitching high and tight all day. 

It does bother me that this team has not had it in them to retaliate in any way for the past several years.  I wouldn’t be in favor of taking out one of their players, not at all, but I also think there’s nothing wrong if one of their guys got plunked on the thigh or the ass. There’s several very good teams out there that wouldn’t have tolerated their guy getting hit like that. 

I for one am pulling for J Walsh to get better, if something is in fact wrong. Would make an amazing story to see him in the big leagues again. 

1 hour ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

Even the Angels medical staff was assuming he was just being a bitch like he usually is.

“Oh that’s just Rendon being a bitch again”.  That sounds about right. 
Rendon is better suited for softball than baseball at this point.  What could we get from a softball league for him?

It doesn’t hurt that Moniak is in the lineup. Dude is reminding the baseball world why he was the number one player taken in the draft. 

How about the play at the plate where Neto crashes into the catcher’s helmet?  Had that been rendon, he’d be in a full body cast today, at the very least a neck brace and out for sure. Brittle sob 

Give me that any day of the week. Some fire! Take a team with a few more Thaiss’s and NO Rendons. Got ourselves a winning ball club. 
 

15 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

It just seems like he doesn’t want to play baseball. 

My feelings exactly. I think that’s obvious at this point. The other players on the team have got to see it and it can’t be good for environment in the clubhouse. 

Legit at what exactly? Constantly tinkering with the lineup regardless of outcome. 

On 7/5/2023 at 8:19 PM, bloodbrother said:

Why does this thread keep getting bumped every few months? There's nothing to discuss. Results have been in for a while now.  As a fan, just gotta hope that since he doesn't like baseball, he decides to walk away by year 5 instead of playing out the full contract. Wishful thinking obviously, but that's the hope. Most likely it ends the same as the Pujols deal with the team just DFA at some point during his last season under contract

This thread seems to have true tenacity, much more than the guy who’s paid many millions per year to PLAY 3rd base for this team. 

35 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

Moniak is not the answer. 

I mean, no one player is the answer but he can contribute. Plus, Moniak is fun to watch, he’s got some pretty decent pop. 

Considering everything that this team has already tried, why the hell not give Moniak a shot. Coming out here to the West Coast seems to have rejuvenated his career. He can still play the outfield, draw a walk or two, steal a base.