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3 hours ago, Stradling said:

That’s asinine

2.11 to 7.59 era with the Angels.  1.23 to 1.78 whip with the Angels.  Yeah, that's "asinine".  We'll see within a week, going to back to Atlanta or another contender.  

So I’m listening to yesterday’s game and it occurs to me that jc was pitching to get released. He brought over decent numbers and then he gets here and he sucks balls again. Could it have been his intention to go back to Atlanta?

A personal theory of mine has been that this is a collection of players that could not handle the pressure of winning with Trout and Ohtani on the team.  The pressure of getting them into the playoffs seemed too much.  Now that the possibility of playing in the post-season is behind them, they'll play more relaxed.  Hoping it continues into the next series.  

4 hours ago, angelsnationtalk said:

WHYYYYYY

just call someone up

This organization is suddenly going to be making meaningful moves?  I'm certain they're in an office and just relying on a game of rocks, paper, scissors at this point.

Any of you fellow Angels fans having a really good year?  Maybe pitch in a little extra.

14 minutes ago, eaterfan said:

The Glazers have brought a ton of expensive big names to Man U. They just haven't worked out. Pogba and Ronaldo to name a few. It's the same as the Angels. 

Anyway, the Glazers have been using Man U like an ATM, accruing a lot of debt and taking cash out. It's like the McCourts. Arte never did that. But I am hoping we don't have a worst case scenario here.

Aww... I forgot about the McCourts.  Damn, things could get worse for our beloved Angels.  

I know there's been a lot of free financial advice on this board to Mr. Moreno on how he should sell the team.   This is a dicey situation, it can be a "be careful what you wish for" scenario.  I also follow the English Premiere League (Tottenham) and what's happened to the Manchester United team since the Glazers bought the team scares me.  While Mr. Moreno may have a shitty baseball organization in place, he isn't afraid to write a significant check for a big name.  I for one don't have the time or energy to protest with y'all at the stadium in the event a cheap owner buys the team.  

16 hours ago, Docwaukee said:

no they didn't.  They had Friedman.  

The Angels needed a manager to act as the bridge between the players and the front office.  He's not wrong in that it was clear the two weren't on the same page.  And that's what happens when there is discord between who's in charge.  

Joe basically indicted himself that the way he thought the FO was trying to do things was wrong and that he was basically going to do it his own way.  

So yes, the franchise has leadership issues.   But no to executing baseball the way that Maddon was trying to do it.  

And also no to the crap roster that Minasian put together.  Joe took that crap roster and made it worse.  

The reason teams like the Dogs, Cards, Yanks, Rays, Braves etc are successful is that everyone is in lock step on how they would like to execute the vision of the FO from the owner down to the training staff.  

This is a top down failure and the shortcomings of everyone involved are relevant.  From Arte to Carpino, to Minasian, to Maddon.  

Joe failed at his job but someone else is responsible for letting him have control and execute his way that didn't align with what others were trying to do.   

How th fuck did Maddon make this shit-show of a roster worse? The lineup could barely hit major league pitching (leading the fucking league in strikeouts) how did Maddon make them worse?  If anything, it’s on perry for getting this group of players together. A group that clearly cannot handle the pressure of winning with arguably the two top players in baseball (at the time).  The prove this point every time Ohtani takes the mound… just too much pressure for them. What a cop out to blame a World Series winning manager. Name the manager, this group of hitters perry has assembled  is going to continue to suck donkey balls… and why does the hitting coach get a free pass?

Anyone listening to the game?  It seems, to me at least, that Terry Smith is trying to jinx what is currently going on with our pitcher. 

Coaching at the major league level shouldn't even be a point of discussion among the fanbase during the season.  If it is, it's because your team is sucking donkey-balls.  I'm pretty certain the fanbase for both New York teams or the Houston team aren't bringing up the coaching.  My personal concern, this entire season, has been this team's ability to comfortably lead the major leagues in batting strikeouts.  Comfortably.  Can't really get on base or move a run over with a strikeout.  How is this not addressed during the season???  This organization fires it's manager during the season, trades one of it's most promising (at one point) young players, yet the hitting coach is safe?  

I thought our boys had all the buzzard-luck…

I realize I got a little off topic. Back to the point here; I’m going to say it’s the overall treatment of its stars. Most recently, the handling of Pujols was nothing short of pathetic. How do you just release a guy like Albert Pujols?  How have things gone for this organization since then?  Where have we gotten a ‘break’?  

2 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

... and more cost effecient..

To be fair, no matter how it turned out, kudos to Arte for signing Pujols. I doubt anyone on earth could predict at the time how bad it would turn out. Pujols at the time was as sure a thing as there ever was in baseball.

I'm sure some will disagree here. And to them I say go back and look at the thread where we locked up Trout.

Back in 2019 when we locked Trout up, we knew the end would be ugly (it still will be). But nobody could have predicted the next 4 years were going to be bad...

What is it about a FAT contract from the Angels?  Really what is it. The substantially more successful team in Los Angeles gives out Fat contracts and it doesn’t seem to doom the player to loss of productivity or to significantly increase the likelihood of injury. What the hell is it about a FAT contract from the Angels??

Must have hurt like a mother… I was once trying to select some watermelon sized river rocks for my garden when one rolled over and smashed my finger. Obviously all the nerve endings in the finger tips. Hope it’s a quick recovery, I like the kid. 

Should go back to being the California Angels with the classic “CA” logo

50 minutes ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

I really like the stripes and winged A….said nobody ever.

Beer league…

2 hours ago, T.G. said:

You listen to Lodge?

I see you in a whole different light now 

When you talk as much as Losge does, you’re bound to say something that makes sense every now and then. 

1 hour ago, Duren, Duren said:

Is it taken for granted that Trout will just quietly slip into the  background now? 

Hardly a word mentioned about him lately. No daily updates. Just broad generalities about a return at some point. 

Obviously with the team in flux there is no urgency. But fans still pay good money and he makes a fortune. It would still be a little compensation for fans watching he and Ohtani back to back in the batting order or wherever. 

Early odds on what next year's ailment will be?  He makes so much freaking money... he can't play a little hurt????

The guy is going to make $37 million US dollars this year, regardless if he 'tries' to play or is rested for the remainder of the season.  He was on a special/legendary course before... he got paid.  

While this team has shown improvement the past few weeks, the inability to hit the baseball with the bat this whole season has been a mystery that Mr Ripley would have a hard time believing. One of the worst culprits is now on another team and we have an exciting catching prospect… how often do those come around.  All in all, it was perry being told to get rid of some salary. 

Making this organization better and better, perry.

It's GOTTA be a different Jesse Chavez... 

It's been a long time since there's been a good catching-prospect in the farm system.  Marsh will likely flourish with more competent coaching on the Phillies.  Marsh's defense was solid, but that strikeout rate was nuts.

1 minute ago, Blarg said:

Bourjos hit better.

Oof!

When was the last time this team had a decent catching prospect, wasn't it Conger?  Catching prospects are just so rare.  As previously, mentioned, a good outfield that strikeouts 35% of the time are a dime a dozen.