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On 5/7/2024 at 8:30 AM, Blarg said:
I became an Angels fan in '66 so I've seen almost every decade of failure. This latest one has probably been the worst to suffer through. It is like the Ryan years where we had one of the best pitchers on the worst team.
In those years it was much harder to make the playoffs so people didn't really expect it. Now with 3 wild cards, its much more disappointing.
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3 hours ago, Stradling said:
And your ignorance is an example of the education system failing its students.
The reason why Miami went 17-0 is because they were talented. Nimrod.Nimrod, legendary biblical figure of the book of Genesis. Nimrod is described in Genesis 10:8–12 as “the first on earth to be a mighty man.
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2 minutes ago, Jason said:
Yeah, I’m sure they actually care about those boos.
True. They don't play like they care much at all.
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3 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:
Cool. Still doesn't answer my question or explain why you think the current collection of players should be better than they are. You continue to post laughable, moronic takes on virtually everything.
You have zero situational awareness or understanding of human psychology, and would require a brick in the face to learn not to walk into walls.
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12 minutes ago, Stradling said:
Yep if there was an empty stadium, these injuries wouldn’t happen or the Goodrums, Calhouns and Ehire’s would lead us to a winning record. Oh and the Guilliome guy, can’t forget him.
The 1972 Miami Dolphins lost their starting QB early in the season, but still went 17-0 and won the Super Bowl.
Keep making lame excuses Strad, unfortunately your type of (fan approved) excuses are part of the reason the Angel organization is so comfortable losing.
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3 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:
You make zero sense, as usual. You have flip-flopped on your point multiple times in this thread alone. You have still yet to explain how you think the current collection of players on this roster should be winning more frequently than they have been. It's not "intellectually lazy" to say that a team isn't talented, especially when a large portion of the current roster is made up of guys who've been released by multiple teams in recent years, guys on one-year contracts and mediocre at best career results, etc.
Are you honestly somehow trying to say that if fans hold Moreno "accountable" (whatever that even means in your warped mind), that the team itself will play better? I have no idea what you're trying to say.
The Angles current culture is the reason for lack of success and inability to get the players to perform to their ability on a sustained basis, with occasional runs of over achievement.
It starts with having no accountability. The organization to the fans, and the players to each other.
The organization has not developed any "leaders" on the field, among the coaches, or in the front office.
The Culture does not promote open dialogue with the fan base, nor provide a plan for success. The Culture is to continuously fire scape goats rather than take a deep dive into the roots of the extended playoff drought.
There are many other areas that need to be addressed, but I am not going to waste any more time on this.
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10 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:
Again, none of that explains why you think they should have more wins, given the talent they have. They have less talent in their system/in the majors than perhaps any other team in baseball. They're not good--especially the crew they're running out there these days. There's zero reason to believe that this team has the talent to be better than they've been so far.
It's too easy to just blame "lack of talent". That excuse is intellectually lazy and rarely true.
The 1958 Green Bay Packers were 1-10-1. I am sure many said they had "lack of talent". You probably would have said that as well based on your current acceptance of poor results.
The 1958 Green Bay Packers included 6 future Hall of Fame inductees on that roster.
There are plenty of examples like this. Including the 1980 USA Hockey team.
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21 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:
I have no idea why you think that.
Look at the number of mental mistakes that have cost games.
Look at the number of errors that have cost games.
Look at the number of players that can't stay in the lineup.
Look at the results of the lower levels.
Look at the lack of communication to the fans from the front office.
Look at the clap back at any sportswriter who tries to hold the organization of player accountable.
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2 minutes ago, Torridd said:
Do you think they're not taking enough pain? This is an honest question.
How can we tell when Artie and Carpino won't hold a press conference to address the situation and provide a plan moving forward? What person would hitch their wagon to an organization that won't communicate or say anything to show that these terrible results are unacceptable and a maximum effort will be made to become a playoff team.
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1 minute ago, jsnpritchett said:
I have no idea why you think that.
I just don't see the effort being put forth or a commitment to winning/excellence. That's a culture problem. Nor do I see the fans holding the organization accountable. This all fine and dandy, but we should all just enjoy baseball for the sake of baseball instead of complaining about Arte because deep down most don't care "enough" to actually organize a boycott or anything within their power to financially make it painful for Arte, or retweet articles critical of the organization. Instead, most will defend the organization as it just gets worse and worse.
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10 hours ago, cgoldangel said:
My first game was the Angels and Yankees in the early 70’s. I remember a picture of Mickey Rivers on the cover of the program and then walking through the tunnel to the upper deck and seeing the beautiful green Angel’s stadium grass and the size of the stadium. I just looked at the scene in awe and have loved the Angels since.
Walking out of the tunnel on the upper deck (1st base side) was also my first memory. Can't remember the team that Angels were playing but my first look at the green grass and filed was awe inspiring to this 6 yr old, and unforgettable.
Also remember looking out the back of the top deck to see the disneyland fireworks.
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In fairness, the Royals are a playoff contender. Tier 3 as of 4/21 and probably still so.
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2 hours ago, Tank said:
my brother and i LOVED batting helmets. i can remember buying them at dodger stadium for $2.50 each. we saved our allowance money each time we knew we were going to a game so we could buy a new one. we had a decent collection with each of us having about 12-15 helmets. reached a point in our 20s when we decided we were too old for such things and just tossed them. that was one of my more regrettable decisions.
fortunately, we managed to save our very first helmets. it was a reds helmet with foam rubber inside instead of the brown adjustable plastic strap. it also says Reds inside the capital C. i think we got them in 1970.
That helmet collection would have been awesome. All the old logos! Back then you could only get helmets at the stadium. I always liked how the sun reflected through the light blue Dodger helmet. Also really wanted the Angel helmet to have the halo. (They never did though, so my mom sewed a halo onto my Angel cap).
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1 hour ago, T.G. said:
It has always bothered me that I'm not certain of the first game I ever attended. It might be (only because I know for certain that I was at this game) May 9, 1970 when the Angels beat the Yankees 11-3 on Bat Night.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CAL/CAL197005090.shtml
I remember everyone in the crowd holding up their bats and it looked like a forest of bats. I don't remember much about the game, other than Andy Messersmith was pitching. He even hit a homerun that game.
I really believe I went to a game earlier than that, but I've never been able to figure out which one. That game in 1970 sticks out in my mind because it was bat night.
My favorite giveaway was helmet night. Having an Angel or Dodger helmet (with the brown adjustable plastic strap) was a big deal
- Halo in Chicago and T.G.
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I can't remember which team the Angels played, but I do remember waiting for autographs after the game as the players came up the ramp from the clubhouse on their way to their cars
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Pirates have not won a series in their past 5 matches, including getting swept by the A's and losing series to Tier 6 Rockies, and Angels. #Trendingdown.
- BTH and Halo in Chicago
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3 minutes ago, Tank said:
so if two of the best players on your team are out with injuries, missing significant time, why would you fire the manager when the GM gives him a bus full of AAAA to take the field?
Agreed. Makes no sense but that's what the Angels did last year. With almost unanimous support from the board.
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13 minutes ago, Stradling said:
So you think Washington should be fired if they lose 100 games based on the roster and the injuries?
Perry is the one who should be fired. He keeps saying he's the one accountable and then keeps firing managers. Like last year, lack of depth (Perry's fault) and injuries resulted in a terrible hand for the managers. At this point in the season, last years staff produced superior results, but it is pointless to create more chaos by firing another manager.
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6 minutes ago, Angelsfan1984 said:
id continue this conversation but I’m not sure you can process the information coherently so I’ll just continue drinking my beer and pick up the dog shit in my yard.
Yep. Just take the "L", finish your "honey-dos" and drink some beer. Salvage what's left of your weekend.
Catch you on the flip side. Peace.
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Metrics for Success first 20 games
in LA Angels | MLB Daily
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In reviewing the Success metrics for a successful start that many of us wanted to spotlight, the Angels have failed themselves and their fans on almost every level.
Now even the vaunted 30k/game ave attendance (considered bankable by many) is averaging (4k) from last year, #14 in the majors, and trending even lower. 2024 could end up as the worst attendance year in a generation.