Swordsman78

3 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

Tiers are content 

FIFY.

Get in the game or stand by the side and let the victors go by.

52 minutes ago, Duren, Duren said:

Interesting metric format. But still too early to call these more than a very early sample size of 1/8th of the season. A couple of good or bad series can distort a team's status as much as show an established performance level. Early in a season team's often experiment, trying to find the best everyday lineup and rotation. 

I'd do these maybe quarterly, after each forty games. By then teams have played more evenly road/home and against a wider spectrum of teams. The first twenty are somewhat indicative, but not enough to think things can't change over a longer time frame. 

You are correct, this is early but establishes a starting point for discussion and crowd sourcing.   I plan to officially update again at approx 60 games, but team Tier placement will be fluid through the next 40 games.

2 hours ago, The Ghost of Bob Starr said:

Angels should be in tier 6.  Let’s get real.

Angels are on probation ** in Tier 5.   A sweep by Baltimore would surely drop them to Tier 6, but a series win over the O's would take them off probation for Tier 5

54 minutes ago, Slegnaac said:

Royals are better than tier 4 right now.

13 - 9 record

+38 run differential 

Currently would be a WC.

Your crowd source is suspect.

Good input.  Royals moved to Tier 3.   I had them at 12 wins until you pointed out they had 13.  This moved them to 14.5 points and into Tier 3.  Thanks for the crowed sourcing.

 Here is the thought process on the Royals.   Basically they feasted on the White Sox and lost a series to Tier 5/6 Twins

13- 13 points

3 series wins - +3 points

2 series wins were vs. Tier 6 (White sox x 2) for 6-1 record = (-.5 points x 2)

Lost a series vs Tier 5/6 Twins.= (-.5 points)

Without the benefit of playing 2 series vs. White Sox their record  would be 6-8

Baseball Tiers as of 4-22-24

Tier 1       Brewers, Braves, Yankees, Cleveland, Phillies                                (19.5-21.75 points)

Tier 2       Cubs, Orioles, Mets, Red Sox, Blue Jays, Padres, Dodgers                            (16-18.75 points)

 Tier 3      Pirates*, Reds, Rays, Royals, Tigers, Rangers, Seattle, Dbacks                     (13.75-1.5.5 points)

Tier 4       A's*, Cards*, Giants, Nats    Seattle                                                                                (10.0-13.25)

Tier 5      Angels*,  Astros*, Twins*                                                                                    (7.5-9.0 points)

Tier 6      White Sox, Rockies, Marlins,                                                                             (2.5-6 points)

Note:  The Tiers are crowd sourced.  All input will be considered and adjustments made as appropriate.

The Tiers represent a snap shot for a time period and will be fluid due to relevant injuries and     future level of play.

Tier 1 and 2 = Current Playoff Caliber

Tier 3 = On the Bubble for playoffs

Tier 4 = .500 team +/- 3-5 wins

Tier 5 = Trending down with tempo

Tier 6 =  Dungeon.  Hopeless

*       = on probation/bubble down for their current Tier.

Below is an explanation of the Methodolgy used to place the teams on various Tiers.  The Tier concept recognizes that W/L records are a function of quality of opponent, and as such, RELEVANCY of opponent MUST be factored in. 

The following data points are the primary drivers:  # of wins,   # series won, current series win streak. Quality series win over Tier 1, +7/-7 last 10 games (+.5/-.5)

Fractional Deductions for Series win vs. Tier 6,

*Tier placements consider a team’s entire body of work, however are weighted heaviest on recent games and game weights decrease in significance in reverse order.

3 minutes ago, T.G. said:

Stick to talking baseball or it won't end well for you.

Ok and expecting that will apply to everyone else.

6 minutes ago, T.G. said:

Using emojis is an appropriate reaction.

I guess the deal is off then

5 minutes ago, T.G. said:

How about you talk about baseball and cut the BS.

 

Deal.  And when I do, please cease and desist  with the derogatory emoji every time 

1 hour ago, T.G. said:

I think Rengifo will improve with Washington's help. Give it time.

No one works harder to keep their mod cuff links than TG

On 1/16/2024 at 4:53 PM, Angelsfan1984 said:

If he can enhance Neto into a GG and make schanuel are good 1b, it’s going to be huge for the future. 

It's still early so who knows.   Pulling for success 

1 hour ago, Jason said:

Anyone that thought this team was a .500 team going into the season had their fan blinders on. 

Unfortunately a lot of guys on here did. 

39 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Tier 3

At this point the Orioles have progressed and are playing like a Tier 1/2 team as oppossed to a Tier 2/3 team a month ago.

The official first run of the crowd sourced Tiers should be out soon.

At least we don't have to play the Reds anymore this week 

Hate to say it fellas but the Angels are regressing into Tier 6 

Just now, fan_since79 said:

Please DFA Hicks already and put us out of our misery.

Adell should be in the lineup next game.

Another wasted opportunity.

No one on the team is clutch.

Just now, T.G. said:

Managing.

Not by looking at any stats or metrics year over year.

12 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

It's actually pretty hilarious how frequently you're wrong. 

The call by me was the right one.   The Reds didn't execute.

Still waiting for your first suggestion.   All we hear from you are old news and insults

Is there one area that this team has improved in?

Soriano gets out of the inning finally, but the damage is done.

Can't give a good team 4 outs.

Ugly.   Now Trout is probably hurt.

1 minute ago, Blarg said:

They sure didn't work on it when Nevin was in charge.

OK.  Sure.

Everything Strad thought would be an improvement with this years team, has regressed.  Sad

Good thing the Angels worked so hard on infield defense with the new regime