Swordsman78

Agreed. Makes no sense but that's what the Angels did last year. With almost unanimous support from the board.

Perry is the one who should be fired. He keeps saying he's the one accountable and then keeps firing managers. Like last year, lack of depth (Perry's fault) and injuries resulted in a terrible hand for the managers. At this point in the season, last years staff produced superior results, but it is pointless to create more chaos by firing another manager.

Yep. Just take the "L", finish your "honey-dos" and drink some beer. Salvage what's left of your weekend. Catch you on the flip side. Peace.

Your proposal was based on a false pretense. Any team going 3-0 would have been an outlier. Which is why you find the logic of the Tiers challenging. You chose to jump the gun after the first game, whilst more seasoned observers reserved comment until the series concluded. It is apparent that Self control is NOT one of your better angels. The series played out exactly as the Tiers predicted (in a majority of contests). Tier 1 - 67% win rate. Tier 5 - 33% win rate.

Precisely why the proprietary Tier metrics are first and foremost based on "series win" vs individual games. Yes a Tier 1 team would be expected to beat a Tier 5 team 67% of the time, and that is exactly what happened.

Good question and I will defer to our protege Angelsfan1984 for additional input. The Angels are argue-ably trending down. While we have not "officially" updated the proprietary Tier metrics yet, a case could be made, although losing a series to a Tier 1 team is not as punitive as getting swept by the Twins.

Just looking out for you my man. Also, Without your takes, other more tenured posters may slip into Tier 6

Just to keep in interesting...... 1. If Angels sweep, I will apologize for wasting every ones time and delete the Tiers thread, and self ban from using the word "Tier" 2. If Angels get swept you will post an apology for doubting the logic and viability of the Tiers and add the sentence "Angelsfan1984 is a Tier 6 poster". and tag it to your future posts for the rest of the season. 3. No self bans because flukes do happen.

It is gratifying to see the majority supporting the manager this year. Even though the record is much worse, at the end of the day the manager can only play the cards he is dealt. My efforts last year finally coming to fruition. Breaking this bronco took longer than it should have. Appreciate the senior posters most of all for spear heading the revelation.

The blind squirrel anomaly would have to come into play.

Cleveland will be the first Tier 1 team the halos play and their record is already 11-20. I see pain in their future. Doubt very few on staff up to Arte survives this season

You're not sorry at all. At least about Anderson's night.

The entire point of the comment was how it must have sucked for Anderson to watch his (QS) get wasted. Sorry you missed that bus.

6 IP pitched. Faced 1 over the minimum in last 4 innings pitched. Was pulled in the 6th with a 4-2 lead. That's about as "stellar" as we are going to get this season. So yes. Most knowledgeable Angel fans and baseball fans would consider Anderson's outing as stellar.

It's terrible for Anderson. 6 strong innings pitched, probably could have gone another inning (looked like he wanted to). Exits/pulled with a 2 run lead only needing 9 outs. Bullpen collapses ruining one of the rare stellar starting pitching efforts.

Exactly the point. Why put more (and unnecessary) strain on him.

Whelp. It was fun while it lasted (April). Exactly why Trout's physical load was previously monitored since the calf injury. Total misuse of their #1 most valuable asset and team leader. aka "The Franchise"

In retrospect, maybe it wasn't such a good idea to green light Trout steal those bases and risk injury. The staff playing with fire regarding their #1 asset.

Couldn't even get through April before we lose $700,000,000 + of payroll for the season. The wheels have officially fallen off the wagon.

Good piece of base running with the double steal followed by good situational hitting for the RBI. Unfortunately getting caught in between bases for the second out ended up costing the would be tie-ing RBI on Ohoppe fly to center.. All in all it was a good inning though. (including the pick off)

Still a good crowd $$$ for Arte vs the Twins. Arte may just get away with it

I hope the fact that the Angels drew 141k for the Twins series doesn't motivate Arte to tighten the belt further

The hype video before the season started is embarrassing now as well.

Rendon was a mirage with a tier 6 body. The Marsh trade got us o'hoppe who we needed more than Marsh at the time and still do. If Wash can get them to clean up the errors and mental mistakes, they would be a fun group to watch develop.

"Real math" has the Braves and Philly in Tier 3.