tomsred

19 hours ago, IheartLA said:

good avg/OBP but the slug% in a toy box AAA ballpark is worrisome 

David Fletcher Jr.

7 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

Sounds like bullshit CYA to me

Well he did throw virtually all the same pitches, and he has only two in his arsenal.  He belongs in AAA, not the major leagues.

Don't worry, when the Sun starts to run out of fuel it expands, and the Earth becomes toast.  

No Angel loss today, peace and relaxation for 24 hours anyway.

7 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Maddon was hand picked by Arte, Arte was ok firing him. Perry must have given a really strong argument to make that happen. 

I don't know about that.  I think Arte is really trying to stay out of baseball operations, I think it was more of a cursory " whatever you think Perry, it's your decision."  Personally I think Arte has reached the age where he doesn't want to be involved in the day to day mess, he has other things in his life that are more important.

6 hours ago, CaliAngel said:

I don't understand why these assholes can't just hit the fucking baseball.

It's all they're paid to do.

It's embarrassing.

Well, they are paid to catch the ball and make outs as well, maybe they can't walk and chew gum at the same time though.

9 hours ago, beatlesrule said:

Here's what this writer thinks

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/maybe-angels-should-just-trade-mike-trout-or-shohei-ohtani-to-salvage-franchise/ar-AAZ2dHL

A lot of what this writer said was good, but he missed the mark on Trout's frustration showing in center field  when he thought Peguero was tipping pitches.  Peguero was intentionally doing that just to throw off the hitters, he practically threw all the same pitches to the hitters even though he was trying to distract them into thinking he was going to throw something else.  The TV  announcers (primarily Gubi) covered that this weekend on some commentary.  I was surprised when they were talking about it.  In any event the hitters liked the one pitch he was throwing because they blasted it all over the field.

21 minutes ago, True Grich said:

We live in an era now where the front office has all the power. They even pick the coaching staff. In the past, the manager did that.  They even play a bigger role in the lineup, batting order, etc. I don’t know if that’s a good thing or not - but given most GM’s didn’t play the game at a high level, it concerns me.

With that power comes great responsibility. If things aren’t working, they need to be held accountable.

I agree.  There were a lot of decisions made by the baseball office that I disagree with.  

I would have done the following:  Picked up a talented SS in the off season when they were plentiful (like Story, or Chris Taylor), and in retrospect that would have eliminated the need for Velasquez, Mayfield, and Wade.  I would not have signed Thor as I thought his price was too high.  I would have not dropped Upton as he was hot in Spring Training, at least not until there had more major league history on Marsh and Adel.  I would have not fired Maddon, his experience was too valuable.  I would have given more latitude to Maddon, and not meddled so much with regard to coaching staff and in game decision making.  There were a lot of reliable starters available when the off season started, and too many were bypassed.

Things I did agree with:  I thought signing Lorenzen and letting him try starting was a good idea, especially given that he could revert to the bullpen as necessary.  Strengthening the bullpen was a good idea, but couldn't Perry have found some younger and harder throwers?

I would not be surprised at all if Perry Minasian picks up Kyle Tyler.

Minasian is grasping at straws, maybe if he picks up enough of them one will eventually blossom.  Right now my level of confidence in what he has picked up is extremely low.

Until this organization learns to recognize real talent, and then develop and use it properly there is no hope.  I agree with True Grich that a winning culture has not been implemented, mostly because of poor decisions being made by the baseball organization within this team.

1 hour ago, Brandon said:

Not gonna lie, I really thought that might turn the season around and the kick we needed.

I also forgot to mention a star player being put on IR.

I had no hope that the brawl would turn this season around.  This team already seemed together in spirit, but short on talent.  And that was not addressed properly during this past off season.

I also had no hope that firing an experienced manager would turn this season around.  That move was purely emotional by the GM.

Please start by replacing this GM, I don't think he has any idea of what he's doing.

11 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

I remember the name, but not sure why. Checking BR, he was BA's #53 prospect before 2019. Fangraphs had him as a 50 FV prospect back then, which was what Detmers was. Clean peanut potential, but the Braves don't usually let quality players go for a few bucks.

The Braves are try to help Minasian keep his job with the Angels, as they don't want Minasian to come back.

1 hour ago, True Grich said:

OK... now just go out and win some games... otherwise, all this stuff about "firing up the team" is moot.

Fighting is about the least efficient way of "firing up a team."  The reality, if suspensions are involved, is that it can easily make winning harder.

40 minutes ago, Swordsman78 said:

In Football and Basketball all the stars on offense can impact multiple plays in a row.   In baseball you wait 3 innings for the stars to come up to bat.  Then the other team takes the bat out of their hand and walks them.

Suggestions:   If a player walks, a runner goes to first but the manager has the option of keeping the player who walked up for another at bat.   Until he puts a ball into play or strikes out.

Suggestion #2 - Any fastball pitch in the close vicinity of the batters head results in a triple, and the same rule above also applies.

Regarding #2, how are you planning on getting agreement on what is "close vicinity"?

2 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

I wrote this...

 

That's great Jeff, sums it up pretty well.

The bullpen is not acceptable.  

I would go with the weak offensive performance at 2nd, 3rd and SS, plus I believe the inconsistency of the bullpen setup arms is right up there as well.  Actually all of Minasian's off season signings have underperformed with the exception of Lorenzen.  Proper overall depth was not really addressed effectively.  Manager replacement should have been addressed in the coming off season with someone more experienced than Nevin.  Actually, when it comes down to manager this organization has had only four managers with records better than .500.  2000-2018 Mike Scioscia 1650-1428, 1981-1987 Gene Mauch 379-332, 1989-1991 Doug Rader 232-216, and 1976-1977 Norm Sherry 76-71. 

Just now, daygloman said:

I hear ya!

I've had a fucked up day, and this game is icing on the fuck'n cake.

When is Minasian going to be held accountable?

He assembled this pitching staff......

 

He should be help accountable, it was not well conceived.

Gilbert is 2-0 lifetime against the Angels, and has only given up 1 home run in five home starts this season.  Can we please manufacture some runs and not really rely so much on home runs.

During the last 15 games:

Loup:  10.0 IP, 9.00 ERA, 16 Hits, 6 BB, 11 SO, 2.20 WIP

Tepera:  13.1 IP, 6.75 ERA, 15 Hits, 5 BB, 11 SO, 1.50 WIP

I have a nice Albert Pujols bobblehead, want to trade?

25 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Only this org brings in 3 relievers this season for $20 million, who can’t exceed 94mph.

Only the Halos

And of course, all 3 have mostly flopped.

Quijada just made the point AO.  The seeds of trouble were sown last off season by Minasian when he loaded up the setup staff with soft tossers.  Then he compounded it by emotionally firing a manager without a prime replacement to shift the blame and focus away from himself.  If we could have saved just a few of those games lost during the losing streak even without Redon we would be in a better place regarding the playoffs.

I think we need to dip into the Rocket City Trash Pandas for help after we fire the entire infield left of first base, and get rid of every reliever who can't throw the ball faster than 94 mph.