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  1. 6 hours ago, deepdrive said:

    First thing the announcer said after Dallas won in OT:

    "Now they're back in it"

    Ehh, I don't think so. That shooting was pretty bad. Kind of like watching the Ducks for the last 5 years.

    I have admit that that was a fun game to watch. Even if Vegas looked flat and at times uninterested for the first half of the game. Dallas looked desperate and oetenger didn't look like a goalie that would take them far. Eichel was a one man show. Stone though looks like he's still playing hurt. Which is concerning considering the injury he's coming back from. Hearing lindholm, lyubushkin, Benoit, theodore, and steel a lot was annoying.

  2. Oceans 11 I thought was better than the original.  Where the original just seemed like a bunch of buddies getting together to make a movie.  

    Batman, the Nolan version was pretty fantastic.

    Because its coming out soon.  I thought the Planet of the Apes Trilogy was a solid prequel to the Heston Apes and not the crap Marky Mark Apes.

    Oh and Rogue One was probably one of the better Star Wars movies, but a cheap knockoff of Seven Samurai.  

  3. 2 hours ago, cals said:

    I read a story today about another Asian person dying while hiking in SoCal.  They really need to pass a law.

    Yeah, actually pretty tragic.  It was 2 canyons over from me when I did my hike.  Was wondering what the helicopters were for.  I even commented to one of my hiking partners, that it was a sheriffs helicopter, so definitely a rescue somewhere.  By the "died of blunt force trauma", that's either she fell off the trail, or more likely, tripped and hit her head on a rock.  And that trail she was on was a more moderate one too according to alltrails.

  4. 15 minutes ago, deepdrive said:

    I agree.

    What I posted before wasn't meant to imply the Ducks want to trade Z.  I was just making the case that if they need a piece to make a trade, he could be the guy who has the least reason to be unavailable. But, maybe not.  I don't have access to Verbeek's mind.

    I'd like to think they keep him.  We'll see.

    Really there is no hurry to trade him.  We are well under the cap.  He still has 2 years left before his next RFA stint.  What will be telling is if Beeker goes the 3 year with Leo and McTavish.  Terry I get as to why he gave him a 7 year as he was closer to UFA status.  But if you think about it, it's a brilliant move if Beeker continues with it.  Because A, they get to evaluate the player for 3 years.  B, instead of players getting a 8 year deal when they are 19 or 20, pretty much taking them to 29-30 after their entry level and 8 year deal is done.  Beeker would have them through entry level, then 3 years (so 6 years) and if he gives them a 8, 14 total years.  Taking them through their prime low 30's. 

    Also, another thing is if they do get that Right shot top 6 (Stamkos rumors were out there, and he would fit perfectly, mentor, old so short term like 3 year contract, he's a big guy, huge on the PP).   The Ducks would have a legitimate 3 dangerous lines to work from.   Even if say Z was moved to the 3rd line.  You can't tell me that a line of Z, Lundestrom, Terry would not absolutely shred other teams 3rd lines.  

  5. 2 minutes ago, deepdrive said:

    Use the concept of negative painting and it becomes a little clearer why Z is the trade speculation. Instead of looking at who might be moved, look at who won't be moved.

    Leo and McTavish seem to make the coaches and Verbeek happy. They bring skill and character to the team that I don't think Verbeek wants to lose. Unless it's a trade he wins big in, I don't think he would move them.

    Terry didn't have a good year. But as the team grows in experience, I think it will suit his style more. Also, he's always been a little slow on the development curve, but steady at improving. I think the guy will continue to get better. Doesn't seem to be physically damaged, only 7M a year (if he's grows to be a 35-40 goal scorer), already locked up for multiple years, good character and work ethic/approach. I just can't see a reason to move him. Kind of Silfverberg in the sense that there's always someone else to focus on dealing with trade wise.

    Vatrano is not going to be traded unless he can't be extended. The guy brings an energy to the team that it needs and Verbeek caveats. Probably why Zellweger is the smaller defender we kept. The team just is more alive when he's on the ice.

    Cutter and our first pick are Verbeek choices. Until they play themselves out of favor, they're not going anywhere.

    Killorn was brought in for character. He was overpaid for the same reason. He's a quality player when he's healthy. His contract is probably not movable until the last year. I don't see him going anywhere. Strome is probably the same situation less the talent.

    So there you go. That leaves Z. He has potential talent and is a draw. Not what would keep him here, but might make him desirable to another org. The fact that he has a sense that he's worth more than he presently is, only adds to this. I don't think Verbeek wants to trade him. But i do think he has less holding him back from making a deal that would give the team more experience in a equally talented player (By equally talented, I mean would fit in to give the Ducks as much on the balance.)

     

    the strange thing about this whole Z speculation, is that I haven't heard Cronin or Beeker speak poorly about him at all.  Even when he got benched, neither Cronin or Z said anything bad about it outside of a learning experience.  Most of Cronin's comments about Z have been positive.  Just looking at Beekers, hoping he grows into what we expect of him comment, and Cronins constant praise of him.  I'm wondering if they are both trying to do tough love on Z and work the immaturity out of him.  Cronin said that the guys in the locker room look up to Z.  Just reading between the lines, it doesn't sound like they are looking to trade him, but to elevate him so that he becomes a letter on the team.  

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