Dave Saltzer

With Montgomery signing, does this mean we can finally close this thread tomorrow? 

You guys are really giving me every incentive to get better and be there next year. And I will be. 

You guys are really giving me every incentive to get better and be there next year. And I will be. 

You guys are really giving me every incentive to get better and be there next year. And I will be. 

You guys are really giving me every incentive to get better and be there next year. And I will be. 

You guys are really giving me every incentive to get better and be there next year. And I will be. 

You guys are really giving me every incentive to get better and be there next year. And I will be. 

You guys are really giving me every incentive to get better and be there next year. And I will be. 

You guys are really giving me every incentive to get better and be there next year. And I will be. 

You guys are really giving me every incentive to get better and be there next year. And I will be. 

You guys are really giving me every incentive to get better and be there next year. And I will be. 

You guys are really giving me every incentive to get better and be there next year. And I will be. 

Ahem, I got the Minor leaguers to attend from all of the interviews that I had done with them. Calhoun was so nervous during the meal, but was an an incredible interview. It was the first time that he had really been treated like a star and never forgot it. 
 
Here are 2 stories:
 
1) When Arte showed up, I asked him if he wanted or needed anything. He asked me for a beer, so I went out and bought him a beer. I know that Arte's reputation had taken a hit over the years, but at the time, he could do no wrong. Buying the owner of the team a beer is something I will never forget. He appreciated it, and then started talking for about an hour. All the poor minor leaguers standing behind him, especially Matt Shoemaker with his beard, standing behind him the whole time and unable to sit or do anything because the owner of the team was talking was both painful and funny at the same time. And who can forget when Arte took a swkp at Percy's hat by saying "I used to shoot at things like that back in Vietnam". And it was his own team's promo! 
 
Later, after the dinner, Matt Shoemaker asked me to drop him off at a dinner that he was having with Mike Trout at a Japanese restaurant. So, my two friends, Mike and Kevin joined me driving him across town and getting to meet Mike Trout. Shoemaker was unbelievably chill and telling us all sorts of stories from camp, most of which I can't repeat, and just having fun with a really great guy. 
 
I felt so badly when he was hit in the head. He was definitely a favorite player, as was Calhoun. 
 
Oh, one more nonstory story. Hanging with Steve Geltz. If you know, you know. 

Can we all go down to the courthoue to legally change Rendon's last name to El Vidrio (aka glass)?

Ahem, I got the Minor leaguers to attend from all of the interviews that I had done with them. Calhoun was so nervous during the meal, but was an an incredible interview. It was the first time that he had really been treated like a star and never forgot it. 
 
Here are 2 stories:
 
1) When Arte showed up, I asked him if he wanted or needed anything. He asked me for a beer, so I went out and bought him a beer. I know that Arte's reputation had taken a hit over the years, but at the time, he could do no wrong. Buying the owner of the team a beer is something I will never forget. He appreciated it, and then started talking for about an hour. All the poor minor leaguers standing behind him, especially Matt Shoemaker with his beard, standing behind him the whole time and unable to sit or do anything because the owner of the team was talking was both painful and funny at the same time. And who can forget when Arte took a swkp at Percy's hat by saying "I used to shoot at things like that back in Vietnam". And it was his own team's promo! 
 
Later, after the dinner, Matt Shoemaker asked me to drop him off at a dinner that he was having with Mike Trout at a Japanese restaurant. So, my two friends, Mike and Kevin joined me driving him across town and getting to meet Mike Trout. Shoemaker was unbelievably chill and telling us all sorts of stories from camp, most of which I can't repeat, and just having fun with a really great guy. 
 
I felt so badly when he was hit in the head. He was definitely a favorite player, as was Calhoun. 
 
Oh, one more nonstory story. Hanging with Steve Geltz. If you know, you know. 

Ahem, I got the Minor leaguers to attend from all of the interviews that I had done with them. Calhoun was so nervous during the meal, but was an an incredible interview. It was the first time that he had really been treated like a star and never forgot it. 
 
Here are 2 stories:
 
1) When Arte showed up, I asked him if he wanted or needed anything. He asked me for a beer, so I went out and bought him a beer. I know that Arte's reputation had taken a hit over the years, but at the time, he could do no wrong. Buying the owner of the team a beer is something I will never forget. He appreciated it, and then started talking for about an hour. All the poor minor leaguers standing behind him, especially Matt Shoemaker with his beard, standing behind him the whole time and unable to sit or do anything because the owner of the team was talking was both painful and funny at the same time. And who can forget when Arte took a swkp at Percy's hat by saying "I used to shoot at things like that back in Vietnam". And it was his own team's promo! 
 
Later, after the dinner, Matt Shoemaker asked me to drop him off at a dinner that he was having with Mike Trout at a Japanese restaurant. So, my two friends, Mike and Kevin joined me driving him across town and getting to meet Mike Trout. Shoemaker was unbelievably chill and telling us all sorts of stories from camp, most of which I can't repeat, and just having fun with a really great guy. 
 
I felt so badly when he was hit in the head. He was definitely a favorite player, as was Calhoun. 
 
Oh, one more nonstory story. Hanging with Steve Geltz. If you know, you know. 

Ahem, I got the Minor leaguers to attend from all of the interviews that I had done with them. Calhoun was so nervous during the meal, but was an an incredible interview. It was the first time that he had really been treated like a star and never forgot it. 
 
Here are 2 stories:
 
1) When Arte showed up, I asked him if he wanted or needed anything. He asked me for a beer, so I went out and bought him a beer. I know that Arte's reputation had taken a hit over the years, but at the time, he could do no wrong. Buying the owner of the team a beer is something I will never forget. He appreciated it, and then started talking for about an hour. All the poor minor leaguers standing behind him, especially Matt Shoemaker with his beard, standing behind him the whole time and unable to sit or do anything because the owner of the team was talking was both painful and funny at the same time. And who can forget when Arte took a swkp at Percy's hat by saying "I used to shoot at things like that back in Vietnam". And it was his own team's promo! 
 
Later, after the dinner, Matt Shoemaker asked me to drop him off at a dinner that he was having with Mike Trout at a Japanese restaurant. So, my two friends, Mike and Kevin joined me driving him across town and getting to meet Mike Trout. Shoemaker was unbelievably chill and telling us all sorts of stories from camp, most of which I can't repeat, and just having fun with a really great guy. 
 
I felt so badly when he was hit in the head. He was definitely a favorite player, as was Calhoun. 
 
Oh, one more nonstory story. Hanging with Steve Geltz. If you know, you know. 

Ahem, I got the Minor leaguers to attend from all of the interviews that I had done with them. Calhoun was so nervous during the meal, but was an an incredible interview. It was the first time that he had really been treated like a star and never forgot it. 
 
Here are 2 stories:
 
1) When Arte showed up, I asked him if he wanted or needed anything. He asked me for a beer, so I went out and bought him a beer. I know that Arte's reputation had taken a hit over the years, but at the time, he could do no wrong. Buying the owner of the team a beer is something I will never forget. He appreciated it, and then started talking for about an hour. All the poor minor leaguers standing behind him, especially Matt Shoemaker with his beard, standing behind him the whole time and unable to sit or do anything because the owner of the team was talking was both painful and funny at the same time. And who can forget when Arte took a swkp at Percy's hat by saying "I used to shoot at things like that back in Vietnam". And it was his own team's promo! 
 
Later, after the dinner, Matt Shoemaker asked me to drop him off at a dinner that he was having with Mike Trout at a Japanese restaurant. So, my two friends, Mike and Kevin joined me driving him across town and getting to meet Mike Trout. Shoemaker was unbelievably chill and telling us all sorts of stories from camp, most of which I can't repeat, and just having fun with a really great guy. 
 
I felt so badly when he was hit in the head. He was definitely a favorite player, as was Calhoun. 
 
Oh, one more nonstory story. Hanging with Steve Geltz. If you know, you know. 

Ahem, I got the Minor leaguers to attend from all of the interviews that I had done with them. Calhoun was so nervous during the meal, but was an an incredible interview. It was the first time that he had really been treated like a star and never forgot it. 
 
Here are 2 stories:
 
1) When Arte showed up, I asked him if he wanted or needed anything. He asked me for a beer, so I went out and bought him a beer. I know that Arte's reputation had taken a hit over the years, but at the time, he could do no wrong. Buying the owner of the team a beer is something I will never forget. He appreciated it, and then started talking for about an hour. All the poor minor leaguers standing behind him, especially Matt Shoemaker with his beard, standing behind him the whole time and unable to sit or do anything because the owner of the team was talking was both painful and funny at the same time. And who can forget when Arte took a swkp at Percy's hat by saying "I used to shoot at things like that back in Vietnam". And it was his own team's promo! 
 
Later, after the dinner, Matt Shoemaker asked me to drop him off at a dinner that he was having with Mike Trout at a Japanese restaurant. So, my two friends, Mike and Kevin joined me driving him across town and getting to meet Mike Trout. Shoemaker was unbelievably chill and telling us all sorts of stories from camp, most of which I can't repeat, and just having fun with a really great guy. 
 
I felt so badly when he was hit in the head. He was definitely a favorite player, as was Calhoun. 
 
Oh, one more nonstory story. Hanging with Steve Geltz. If you know, you know. 

But how about the brunch afterward at Aunt Chilada's? Pardon the Timehop, couldn't find the original right now. lol

Here's a thought:
Arte held onto Shohei because he didn't want to be the owner who traded that level of talent away. Trading Shohei may have been the "right" baseball move, but certainly wasn't the "right" marketing/business move (although we can argue that if they traded Shohei away a year prior at the deadline).
 
Because we got our payroll underneath the cap, we get an extra pick after the 2nd round for losing Shohei. And, since we were a bottom 10 record team, we can't lose our 1xt round pick if we sign a player with a QO, and instead would lose our 2nd round pick.
 
By signing Snell, and forfeiting our 2nd round pick, we essentially (and especially in Arte's mind) will get nothing for Shohei. Snell alone isn't going to get us to the postseason, so, while one could argue that what we got for Shohei was the FA we signed, it's not going to move the needle that much for us. So, I can see why, in Arte's mind, he doesn't want to sign a player with a QO. 
 
On another note, I can also see Arte and Perry thinking that the RSN bankruptcy isn't truly resolved. Some teams may become more desperate to unload if there is another collapse. So, it might be wise to hold off a bit to see what happens and who becomes available. 
 
Personally, if we could sign Martinez and Montgomery to reasonable deals, I'd do it.I would like Montgomery to push Anderson into a long relief role at first. With young pitchers, we will have games where we will need him for that. Until he shows me more, I would like to see him get fewer innings, especially fewer critical innings.
 
As for JD, I think he would add an interesting and valuable role to mentor our younger players and Mike Trout. Father time takes its toll on everyone. And yet, Martinez has managed to stay in great shape and put up solid numbers through his age 36 season. Try as he might, Trout will age and will need to adjust how he approaches the plate and his swing. Rather than having old man Rendon giving and showing the wrong way to g about his game, I would rather someone who continues to post great numbers to mentor Trout on how to continue to hit well as the body ages. Pujols did not show such an example, and more importantly isn't there to mentor Trout on this throughout the season. Adding JD to be an elder statesman and potential leader (assuming scouts say that he can fill that role) might be a good idea because of how young our team is overall. 
 
I think that, in part, that's what they wanted out of Washington--to mentor the young team into a future core. If Washington can keep Neto and Schanuel developing, and can turn Adell into a solidto above average regular, then he will have earned his contract. 

Obviously, it would all depend on the deal we sign him to in order to justify losing the draft pick. As I wrote before in the Hot Stove thread, I can see Arte, in his mind, saying that he wants at least a draft pick for losing Ohtani. And, I would still want to sign JD Martinez. 
 
But, one argument in favor of signing Snell (again to the right deal, not an opt out after year 1 or 2 at the very least) is that this year's class is considered a rather weak class, especially in terms of pitching. So, losing a end round pick may not be as bad as losing a 2nd round pick in 2025.

Here's a thought:
Arte held onto Shohei because he didn't want to be the owner who traded that level of talent away. Trading Shohei may have been the "right" baseball move, but certainly wasn't the "right" marketing/business move (although we can argue that if they traded Shohei away a year prior at the deadline).
 
Because we got our payroll underneath the cap, we get an extra pick after the 2nd round for losing Shohei. And, since we were a bottom 10 record team, we can't lose our 1xt round pick if we sign a player with a QO, and instead would lose our 2nd round pick.
 
By signing Snell, and forfeiting our 2nd round pick, we essentially (and especially in Arte's mind) will get nothing for Shohei. Snell alone isn't going to get us to the postseason, so, while one could argue that what we got for Shohei was the FA we signed, it's not going to move the needle that much for us. So, I can see why, in Arte's mind, he doesn't want to sign a player with a QO. 
 
On another note, I can also see Arte and Perry thinking that the RSN bankruptcy isn't truly resolved. Some teams may become more desperate to unload if there is another collapse. So, it might be wise to hold off a bit to see what happens and who becomes available. 
 
Personally, if we could sign Martinez and Montgomery to reasonable deals, I'd do it.I would like Montgomery to push Anderson into a long relief role at first. With young pitchers, we will have games where we will need him for that. Until he shows me more, I would like to see him get fewer innings, especially fewer critical innings.
 
As for JD, I think he would add an interesting and valuable role to mentor our younger players and Mike Trout. Father time takes its toll on everyone. And yet, Martinez has managed to stay in great shape and put up solid numbers through his age 36 season. Try as he might, Trout will age and will need to adjust how he approaches the plate and his swing. Rather than having old man Rendon giving and showing the wrong way to g about his game, I would rather someone who continues to post great numbers to mentor Trout on how to continue to hit well as the body ages. Pujols did not show such an example, and more importantly isn't there to mentor Trout on this throughout the season. Adding JD to be an elder statesman and potential leader (assuming scouts say that he can fill that role) might be a good idea because of how young our team is overall. 
 
I think that, in part, that's what they wanted out of Washington--to mentor the young team into a future core. If Washington can keep Neto and Schanuel developing, and can turn Adell into a solidto above average regular, then he will have earned his contract. 

Here's a thought:
Arte held onto Shohei because he didn't want to be the owner who traded that level of talent away. Trading Shohei may have been the "right" baseball move, but certainly wasn't the "right" marketing/business move (although we can argue that if they traded Shohei away a year prior at the deadline).
 
Because we got our payroll underneath the cap, we get an extra pick after the 2nd round for losing Shohei. And, since we were a bottom 10 record team, we can't lose our 1xt round pick if we sign a player with a QO, and instead would lose our 2nd round pick.
 
By signing Snell, and forfeiting our 2nd round pick, we essentially (and especially in Arte's mind) will get nothing for Shohei. Snell alone isn't going to get us to the postseason, so, while one could argue that what we got for Shohei was the FA we signed, it's not going to move the needle that much for us. So, I can see why, in Arte's mind, he doesn't want to sign a player with a QO. 
 
On another note, I can also see Arte and Perry thinking that the RSN bankruptcy isn't truly resolved. Some teams may become more desperate to unload if there is another collapse. So, it might be wise to hold off a bit to see what happens and who becomes available. 
 
Personally, if we could sign Martinez and Montgomery to reasonable deals, I'd do it.I would like Montgomery to push Anderson into a long relief role at first. With young pitchers, we will have games where we will need him for that. Until he shows me more, I would like to see him get fewer innings, especially fewer critical innings.
 
As for JD, I think he would add an interesting and valuable role to mentor our younger players and Mike Trout. Father time takes its toll on everyone. And yet, Martinez has managed to stay in great shape and put up solid numbers through his age 36 season. Try as he might, Trout will age and will need to adjust how he approaches the plate and his swing. Rather than having old man Rendon giving and showing the wrong way to g about his game, I would rather someone who continues to post great numbers to mentor Trout on how to continue to hit well as the body ages. Pujols did not show such an example, and more importantly isn't there to mentor Trout on this throughout the season. Adding JD to be an elder statesman and potential leader (assuming scouts say that he can fill that role) might be a good idea because of how young our team is overall. 
 
I think that, in part, that's what they wanted out of Washington--to mentor the young team into a future core. If Washington can keep Neto and Schanuel developing, and can turn Adell into a solidto above average regular, then he will have earned his contract. 

Here's a thought:
Arte held onto Shohei because he didn't want to be the owner who traded that level of talent away. Trading Shohei may have been the "right" baseball move, but certainly wasn't the "right" marketing/business move (although we can argue that if they traded Shohei away a year prior at the deadline).
 
Because we got our payroll underneath the cap, we get an extra pick after the 2nd round for losing Shohei. And, since we were a bottom 10 record team, we can't lose our 1xt round pick if we sign a player with a QO, and instead would lose our 2nd round pick.
 
By signing Snell, and forfeiting our 2nd round pick, we essentially (and especially in Arte's mind) will get nothing for Shohei. Snell alone isn't going to get us to the postseason, so, while one could argue that what we got for Shohei was the FA we signed, it's not going to move the needle that much for us. So, I can see why, in Arte's mind, he doesn't want to sign a player with a QO. 
 
On another note, I can also see Arte and Perry thinking that the RSN bankruptcy isn't truly resolved. Some teams may become more desperate to unload if there is another collapse. So, it might be wise to hold off a bit to see what happens and who becomes available. 
 
Personally, if we could sign Martinez and Montgomery to reasonable deals, I'd do it.I would like Montgomery to push Anderson into a long relief role at first. With young pitchers, we will have games where we will need him for that. Until he shows me more, I would like to see him get fewer innings, especially fewer critical innings.
 
As for JD, I think he would add an interesting and valuable role to mentor our younger players and Mike Trout. Father time takes its toll on everyone. And yet, Martinez has managed to stay in great shape and put up solid numbers through his age 36 season. Try as he might, Trout will age and will need to adjust how he approaches the plate and his swing. Rather than having old man Rendon giving and showing the wrong way to g about his game, I would rather someone who continues to post great numbers to mentor Trout on how to continue to hit well as the body ages. Pujols did not show such an example, and more importantly isn't there to mentor Trout on this throughout the season. Adding JD to be an elder statesman and potential leader (assuming scouts say that he can fill that role) might be a good idea because of how young our team is overall. 
 
I think that, in part, that's what they wanted out of Washington--to mentor the young team into a future core. If Washington can keep Neto and Schanuel developing, and can turn Adell into a solidto above average regular, then he will have earned his contract.