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Trout should be MVP over the last two years.

Mike Trout has reached base in all of but 8 games this season

They collapse sooner and sooner each year

I don't care that the Giants team won the world series despite me hating them. They had some of the best teams in the league that never won that probably should have. So, it evens out really.

Ron Washington is probably the worst manager in the league.

A-Rod has a 147 wRC+ and was average last year. He's not exactly bad.

This argument never goes anywhere on a forum because the stat heads know the foundation and appropriate context/usage, and know they are tools, wheras people against advanced metrics, well, they are in a form of denial basically, and 9 of of 10 are pretty ignorant to the sport in question, advanced metrics isn't something new, the applications may be. No one should have to explain why advanced metrics in sports are useful to the common college educated person, they would already know the answer or reach the conclusion using common sense. It's not a right/wrong argument, there really is not argument, there are facts, and theories. Math consists of facts. Not opinions.

They do far outweigh his fielding. His contributions. You aren't wrong when you say that. However, they don't outweigh it enough to make him better than Trout. Look at it from a runs stand point. Trout has created 124 runs with his offense and has cost the Angels one entire run with his defense. Trout has been 123 runs this season. Miggy has created 133 runs with his offense and has cost the Tigers 17 runs on the fielding. He is worth 116 runs. So Trout is seven runs better.

Trout is the best player in the league and it's not really close.

That's not because their power is diminishing. It's because their eyes, reflexes, and bodies are breaking down. Strength and power are still there. Raul and Giambi are good examples of this.

Ortiz is a power hitter with a good eye. Those age well. Everything starts to break down as you get older. Except power. Your peaks at 40 and stays stable till 50. What will slow him down eventually is his eye getting worse and his reaction time getting slower.

That's exactly why. Fangraphs is better for predicting player performances, but baseball reference is better for teams because ERA a lot of the times is vastly affected by defense, which is a constant.

Baseball reference has a .94 correlation to winning while fangraphs has a .92 correlation to winning.

I thought Hunter would regress to be honest.

That loss sucked.

If Trout wasn't the best player in the league I would agree. But he is so I don't.

What a moron. Even if that's what you think, you always stick up for your players.

Some players don't win because their team is too good. It's morel like "the best player inbetween 85 and 95 wins who makes the playoffs" award.

I think most people that aren't on Angels forum knew a ten year deal was an awful idea.

Well, he is one of the worst framers in the major leagues. Or do you think AJ wouldn't make mistakes like this?

It wasn't the umps fault. It was AJ's fault. When he caught the ball, instead of framing it his glove dipped down. Made it look like a ball. That's all on him.

Trumbo is actually a productive and good player. I'd love to have him on the A's.

The only reason Pujol's contract won't go down as one of the worst in the history of baseball is because A-Rod's second ten year contract exists. And now that's arguable because they don't have to pay him for two years.

That was him being fat and out of shape. Don't try to tell us he took steroids in his last few years, that's completely asinine.

Probably not many, which means the GM failed. The goal is to get the general public and ESPN to like your team at the start of the season.