mulwin444

Now, the MRI doesn't show a tear but, obviously doesn't mean a tear can't develop over time...or this year...or next month.  

Difference was, Dr Frank Jobe operated on people who actually needed surgery.  
Also, just because you get Tommy John surgery doesn't mean you won't need ever need again...it also doesn't mean you won't need it again soon after the first one (see Jonny Venters).
The reason it hasn't been considered to this point is it is not a good idea/viable solution.
 

To amend what I said earlier, Jeff Fletcher just tweeted that when we signed Ohtani, he alreayd had a grade 1 sprain of the UCL and Canning doesn't even have that.
His injury appears to be "because I am a pitcher".

Difference was, Dr Frank Jobe operated on people who actually needed surgery.  
Also, just because you get Tommy John surgery doesn't mean you won't need ever need again...it also doesn't mean you won't need it again soon after the first one (see Jonny Venters).
The reason it hasn't been considered to this point is it is not a good idea/viable solution.
 

They are not going to perform surgery when there isn't a tear.  Usually, you will hear something about a grade 1 (stretched but no tear), 2 (stretched and partial tear), or 3 sprain of UCL (complete tear).  So, it sounds like he's grade 1.
Ohtani had a grade 2 sprain in July 2018, they tried PRP injections, let it rehab, and then it tore (grade 3) when he tried pitching before the end of 2018.
Again, Heaney had a partial tear (grade 2), attempted PRP, and, when healing "plateaued", he opted for surgery
GRich?  Yeah, partial tear...
So, unless he has a partial tear (grade 2), it's not the same as these other scenarios.
Could "chronic changes" mean "partial tear"?  Maybe...but they don't say it explicitly 

Difference was, Dr Frank Jobe operated on people who actually needed surgery.  
Also, just because you get Tommy John surgery doesn't mean you won't need ever need again...it also doesn't mean you won't need it again soon after the first one (see Jonny Venters).
The reason it hasn't been considered to this point is it is not a good idea/viable solution.
 

I believe it would be called malpractice.

Per another tweeted article: "To date, there is no data to support or even consider preventative UCL reconstruction to improve throwing velocity or prevent injuries in the future".
The best thing to do, per all credible sources, is to try and save/rehab the existing UCL and only operate if absolutely necessary. 

To amend what I said earlier, Jeff Fletcher just tweeted that when we signed Ohtani, he alreayd had a grade 1 sprain of the UCL and Canning doesn't even have that.
His injury appears to be "because I am a pitcher".

He pitched to Bob Boone in the minors coming up.  Years later, when Boone was on the Angels, I got to meet Grich, DeCinces, Downing, Witt, etc.  The only one that was not interested at all was Reggie...he was a grumpy bitch.  

Sounds like a good title for your upcoming autobiography.

He pitched to Bob Boone in the minors coming up.  Years later, when Boone was on the Angels, I got to meet Grich, DeCinces, Downing, Witt, etc.  The only one that was not interested at all was Reggie...he was a grumpy bitch.  

All 30 MLB teams have millions of dollars in guaranteed contracts to these pitchers...do you think they just shrug and say to themselves "Whelp"?  If they knew how to prevent arm injuries, they'd do it.  The Yankees have more money invested in their franchise than anyone other than maybe the Dodgers and just lost their most promising starter for the next 1 1/2 seasons and their only solution to their lack of pitching was offering 9 years guaranteed to another starting pitcher.  I know it feels like it just happens to us but every team loses pitchers to arm injuries because throwing a ball overhand at a 95+ MPH is an unnatural thing for the body to do to begin with, everyone's body is different so coming to a consensus solution may be difficult, and even the most durable starters go down to injury eventually.  

He pitched to Bob Boone in the minors coming up.  Years later, when Boone was on the Angels, I got to meet Grich, DeCinces, Downing, Witt, etc.  The only one that was not interested at all was Reggie...he was a grumpy bitch.  

He pitched to Bob Boone in the minors coming up.  Years later, when Boone was on the Angels, I got to meet Grich, DeCinces, Downing, Witt, etc.  The only one that was not interested at all was Reggie...he was a grumpy bitch.  

Jeez. @mulwin444, tell your old man to watch out at the golf course

He pitched to Bob Boone in the minors coming up.  Years later, when Boone was on the Angels, I got to meet Grich, DeCinces, Downing, Witt, etc.  The only one that was not interested at all was Reggie...he was a grumpy bitch.  

He pitched to Bob Boone in the minors coming up.  Years later, when Boone was on the Angels, I got to meet Grich, DeCinces, Downing, Witt, etc.  The only one that was not interested at all was Reggie...he was a grumpy bitch.  

Ok now that’s pretty impressive. 

Maybe?  I don't claim to be "in the biz" myself...but I did get the peripheral benefit of hearing the same minor league stories for the past 40+ years.
Edit: this is he:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=meyer-001phi
Also, my Mom's cousin pitched for the Twins for a bit:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hugheji03.shtml
Oh, and my Uncle "pitched" (Haha) in the Angels org for a bit:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=hughes003mic
 

Maybe?  I don't claim to be "in the biz" myself...but I did get the peripheral benefit of hearing the same minor league stories for the past 40+ years.
Edit: this is he:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=meyer-001phi
Also, my Mom's cousin pitched for the Twins for a bit:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hugheji03.shtml
Oh, and my Uncle "pitched" (Haha) in the Angels org for a bit:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=hughes003mic
 

Maybe?  I don't claim to be "in the biz" myself...but I did get the peripheral benefit of hearing the same minor league stories for the past 40+ years.
Edit: this is he:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=meyer-001phi
Also, my Mom's cousin pitched for the Twins for a bit:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hugheji03.shtml
Oh, and my Uncle "pitched" (Haha) in the Angels org for a bit:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=hughes003mic
 

My dad was drafted by the Phillies as a pitcher out of high school in 1967 and he played baseball, basketball and football.  He was the top starter on his team so there was an expectation he'd go deep into games and even then he was being pressured by the high school coach to make baseball a year round commitment.  I think a lot of these kids have a ton of innings on their arms before they ever make it out of high school.

My dad was drafted by the Phillies as a pitcher out of high school in 1967 and he played baseball, basketball and football.  He was the top starter on his team so there was an expectation he'd go deep into games and even then he was being pressured by the high school coach to make baseball a year round commitment.  I think a lot of these kids have a ton of innings on their arms before they ever make it out of high school.

Maybe?  I don't claim to be "in the biz" myself...but I did get the peripheral benefit of hearing the same minor league stories for the past 40+ years.
Edit: this is he:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=meyer-001phi
Also, my Mom's cousin pitched for the Twins for a bit:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hugheji03.shtml
Oh, and my Uncle "pitched" (Haha) in the Angels org for a bit:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=hughes003mic