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18 minutes ago, Hells Rainbow said:

Why?  Will having surgery now (assuming he needs surgery) prevent him from being ready for opening day? 

depends on the thickness of the tear, again assuming thats what it is. But a Gr 3 that is closer to full thickness than not is 6 months to 1 year rehab.

22 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

I’m assuming that there is no chance of it being a Grade 3 strain (surgery suggested) instead of a Grade 2 strain, since it’s soreness and not pain that he is experiencing?

At minimum it is a Grade 3. No Grade 2 lasts this long. Should have had surgery 3 months ago.

On 8/23/2021 at 12:38 PM, jsnpritchett said:

Maybe the answer is simply that guys like Walsh, Stassi, Gosselin, etc. were hitting above their true talent level for portions of the year and now they're all coming back down to earth.

I think its more that they are young and the league is always adjusting. It takes a while for younger players to understand this (speaking more about Walsh, Adell, and Marsh).

On 8/24/2021 at 9:47 AM, Dtwncbad said:

How long do we get to be hopeful for 2022 before we get punched in the gut and told to look toward 2023 instead?

Its part of the journey. I step at a time.

22 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

I mean, surely there's 2 guys who could use a look over these two? We're essentially auditioning for 2022 so why are we still throwing Quintana and Slegers out there? We know exactly what they are.

Give me literally anything else. 

This was a clear situation of setting up the young guys for a comeback. To show them how to come back from 10 runs down. THis is all about development. WE should all have a Quintana in our work place to prepare us for the worst.

2 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

Do the Halos even have a medical staff?

That's what they call themselves. Time to varify medical licenses!

56 minutes ago, Torridd said:

I think, if anything, they've really tried to improve the starting pitching. I think Minasian/Maddon has done a lot of juggling in this area to try to better the team. Heaney was traded, Canning sent down and CRod, Detmers, and Sandoval joined the rotation. They also ousted Bundy and Quintana after their struggles. I feel really good about this direction and I think, with hopefully some good fortune with health, that we'll be in the playoff hunt next season. 

Dont get me wrong, I agree with all you said but the real answer to your question is that they have improved at kicking us in the balls better. The kick is much more accurate, doesnt nick the side of the leg. Nope directly on target. They have what should be a top 3 offense but NO everyone gets hurt. Feel that kick? Every pitcher struggles and it takes 3 months for anyone to start showing promise. Once a pitcher pitches well, Maddon takes him out. I cant count, how many kicks is that?

20 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

It’s indeed a relief to find that out, but does it usually take that long for a medical staff to connect the hip issue to the other non-contact injuries?

It shouldn't. But given the number of UCL injuries and a calf strain that takes longer than several weeks to heal lead one to the belief that someone is not good at their job.

4 hours ago, True Grich said:

I bet Heaney gives up the farm.

He wouldn't take my advice: locate your fastball and DONT PLOW UNDER YOUR CORN!

1 hour ago, Hells Rainbow said:

To me it’s too early to say he isn’t a starter.  That being said if he was going to be as good in the pen as he was this year going forward, then that’s where I’d want him to be. 

I agree. I think he is doing well. Just needs some fine tuning and he'll be a good starter. All this is contingent on if he improves but it looks good so far. I think he sometimes gets too predictable when down in the count and that's when he gets hurt.

Headline should be: Dodger win but cant sweep a minor league team.

19 hours ago, failos said:

It’s disturbing how Maddon is clueless about Trout’s progress. What kind of manager is he?

That does not sound clueless, it sounds more like Maddon does not want to divulge anything.

On 8/4/2021 at 7:36 AM, Angelsjunky said:

As for me, I'm still going back and forth. Pretty sure Detmers has the higher floor, if only because of Rodriguez's injury history. But I'm not sure about upside. And I do like peanuts, either salted or sweet. Plain is boring.

With regards to the peanuts: is that with or without beer?

With beer, unsalted for me.

On 8/3/2021 at 3:42 PM, True Grich said:

Obligatory...

He went south and caught record levels of shrimp, does this mean the Angels will win next year?

28 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

His initial injury was listed as a hamstring.  Curious how/if the hip impingement is related.

It was probably a hip labral injury which is more serious that a hamstring strain. They might not wanted to relay that information until they knee conservative care would not be effective. A labral injury can refer pain to the ischial tuberosity region, which mimics as a hamstring injury.

27 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

Now just waiting on the inevitable tweet about Trout.

The one where they reveal that he really has a torn Achilles and shoulder have had surgery months ago but the result will leave him out most of next season, that one?

13 hours ago, True Grich said:

Change the name to Indians.

Winner of the thread

2 hours ago, Torridd said:

I'm ecstatic that he was so successful last night, but I'm concerned with all his batted balls. Hopefully, I'm just looking a gift horse in the mouth but I wonder, if he continues with this trend, if he'll eventually be shifted against. Thoughts? Worried for nothing? Looking too far in the future?

No, you are correct to ask the question. This league is one of constant adjustments. Players that cant adjust fail.

1 hour ago, WicketMaiden said:

Personally, one of the most annoying things about modern baseball is hitters' inability to change their at-bats when facing an aggressive shift. With Adell's speed, a bunt or slap the other way followed by a steal of second would soon stop teams shifting as a matter of course. Why more players don't hit against the shift and just get on base is a mystery to me, it's like the other team is offering a free hit but most players just ignore it and try to hit it out of the park - that is not shrewd. That is not good team-play.

This is a great comment. It also frustrates me when a team shifts left on a right handed batter and then the pitcher continuallu pitches him outside. This is crazy that the batter has never mastered hitting toward right field.

5 hours ago, Taylor said:

Other than Shohei, the best part of this season has been the success of the young pitchers. I do worry that they'll all be able to adjust once the league figures them out, but it's been so long since we've had a young guy come up and dominate, and we've seen several examples of that so far.

I get you but their development has been due to their increased control and this is how every successful pitcher does it. Their is no real adjustment for that Sandoval change up when he is dotting the corners and moving the ball around the zone the way he has the last 4-5 starts. He, Ohtani, and Cobb have all been doing this in July (for the most part). Need Canning to get in gear and if that happens, this staff is as good as any in the game. The bullpen, however, is another thread.

4 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

To some degree there is a repeat of the last few years, with the Angels discovering that some of their starters just suck:

2021: Quintana, Bundy, and Canning (unfortunately)

2020: Teheran, and those four horrible starts by Suarez and Ohtani 

2019: Harvey and Cahill, and then poor replacements in Suarez and Barria

The commonality are crappy free agents/veterans who just don't pan out, with Cobb being the lone exception (and, I suppose, we can say Bundy in 2020).

What is exciting about next year is that the Angels have a stable of young starters who all seem to be "coming of age." Obviously we need to see how Detmers and Rodriguez do as major league starters, and it may be too soon to feel confident in Barria or even Suarez, and it seems like Canning needs to be re-made, but the Angels have two months to get a better sense of what they have, and in turn decide on what they need.

I really think it will come down to just one new starter, whether re-signing Cobb or going after Stroman or even Gausman. Or it may be that trades bring in another young starter or two on the cusp, and they'll focus solely on creating a new bullpen.

So as you imply, the next two months should be about assessing the young starters, including Detmers and C-Rod, seeing if they can fix Canning, letting Sandoval and Suarez continue to etablish themselves as quality starters, giving Barria a fair shake. And couple that with bringing up guys like Ortega and Tyler, to see if they can be bullpen pieces next year.

 

Could be on the cusp of a good staff. With Sandoval, Ohtani, and Cobb already here and developing (scary to think Ohtani can develop further), then adding Detmers and Rodriguez/Canning (hopefully) and further development of Suarez. This may become a good development. Is there any chance of getting a Scherzer? This would get us into the PO.

10 hours ago, eligrba said:

Evidently the name is a nod to the art deco statues on bridges around Cleveland.  The statues are referred to as Guardians of Traffic.

 

They tried.

Are those really art deco? I'll have to check with my architect friend Patrick Healy

22 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

I think we need to update it from "bullpens are a crapshoot" to "our bullpen is crap"

But it could be said that the bullpen is so crappy that it "shoots" from them. Therefore crapshoot.

5 hours ago, totdprods said:

The #Angels signed 1st round RHP Sam Bachman for $3,847,500. Slot value for the 9th pick is $4,949,100. A $1,101,600 under slot deal. #MLBDraft

— Carlos Collazo (@CarlosACollazo) July 21, 2021

Cool, grab your glove, you're on the mound in tomorrow

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