Stradling

There are idiots among us. This is a generic statement and not addressed to anyone in particular. It is strictly coincidence it ended up in this thread.

Haha

If he was a CF that home run would have gone further, f'ing Scioscia!

I am shocked you are being critical of Scioscia. It's just so unlike you.

Adam has a dinner guest.

Homebrewer?

Chuck has been a hater this season.

The only way replacing Scioscia brings fans to the stadium is if they bring in Erstad or Salmon or Eckstein.

Put yourself in Arte's shoes. Season is lost. Do you A: ride out this season (which is already lost) and at the end of the season give Mike a front office position, which I doubt it will accept, and hope he opts out of his contract, or possibly trade him. Or do you B: Fire him and pay him $30 million? Seems like a pretty obvious choice to me. Let me know when you are going to write a $30 million check.

I'm not sure why you are quoting me. You and I are probably on the same page when it comes to the Big Catorce. I don't think Mike is a bad manager, I just think his teams are undisciplined. I do think it is funny though that people say that the Angels aren't put together in Mike's image, that he doesn't have the pieces to compliment his style. I have two things to say to that. First, how is this team, as constructed on paper that much different than the team he won it all with in 2002, besides the bullpen? Believe it or not this starting staff is probably better than 2002. The team lacks the clutch players that team had, but on paper this team should rival that team offensively. Also this team on paper should be equally as good on defense, minus perhaps Molina vs Ianetta. One thing 2002 had was healthy players that could go first to third, but other than Pujols, everyone on this team is capable of doing that. Secondly, how does Mike win with the way the Dodgers are currently constructed. They have an under-performing $20 Million Centerfielder (sounds like Pujols) and an under-performing $16 million right fielder (sounds like Hamilton). They have an awful defensive team. That team has pitching but it isn't as good as Atlanta's pitching, or Arizona's or the Giants. I do think that Mike is better suited for the NL, but him winning with the Dodgers is far from a guarantee.

Hey HM, your superfan comment I am assuming is about me. Sorry I am not miserable watching the team and only focus on the obvious holes this team has. I call it perspective, you call it superfan. If I rubbed anyone the wrong way with my 90's comment, sorry. I just remember that decade being so miserable that it would make this look like a decent season. I completely understand being upset because of expectations but this stuff happens all the time in baseball, why should the Angels be any different. By the way, in my rant about his post, I mentioned that I would replace Scioscia at the end of the season. I also said I thought this team was really bad, I am not sure how that makes me a super fan, but whatever.

By the way, you have no idea how happy I am that AngelsWin wasn't around in the 90's, then again, most of you weren't fans back in the 90's.

Jesus Christ, over-react much? Crash and burn for four straight years? Sure this will be the fourth season in a row they miss the playoffs but crash and burn? This might be the first season of those four and of Arte's ownership where the team will finish under .500. If this season is lost, which I believe it is, why should he fire Scioscia now? Why not wait until the offseason, and only make one hire, instead of hiring an interm then the permanent one after the season? Not to mention, Scioscia is a tradeable asset, like it or not. Why not trade him, or hell even reassign him to the front office, which would basically force his hand to quit, thus saving Arte about $30 million. This team has performed horribly, so much worse than I ever thought possible. That being said the major league team (the minors will take years to fix) has the pieces to compete next year, with the right additions and with health. My guess is the next manager, which will be managing opening day next year, will be a lot more focused on taking pitches and being smart on the base paths. The only player on the team that has never shown the ability to be a smart base runner is Aybar. This team will have a completely different philosophy with its next manager.

Yeah, it sucks he tried to get us arguably the two best free agents the past two off seasons.

AO. That isn't true either. They are in competition on multiple levels. Arte is going for market share end of story. Did Arte sign Pujols because of something the Dodgers did? No. These things don't happen in a vacuum. The moves didn't work, get over it.

You are reactionary fans.

Yea to get two All Star caliber pitchers in return.

After I draft my team I'm going to trade me for Soto and Riley, it seemed to work last year.

But we hate small ball.

Howie at .320 is very nice to see.

.460 OBP, draws a ton of walks. He is Ianetta. haha

Stephen Mcgee, Florida State.

A catcher was just drafted.

McGowin sounds like the first of these pitchers without a big arm.

Also, it depends on what you mean by bona-fide lead off hitter. If I could get a .400 obp guy with gap power and stolen base potential, ala Kenny Lofton in his prime, then I would take that any day of the week. If you are talking about an Eckstein type of lead off hitter then I am not sure how I would answer that question.