happybat4

Trade him and get what you can. This past off-season probably would have been the best time to trade him.

Maybe Trout will waive his no trade clause and go too 

2 hours ago, Lou said:

OPS down to 1.156 

.5 BWAR

Has a 1400 OPS.

33 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

Speaking of the 1884 St. Louis Maroons, one of their stars was a certain Billy Taylor, a pitcher who went 43-16 for two different teams that year, with 59 complete games. 25-4 with the Maroons. As a hitter, a batting average of .366. 

 

Charlie Sweeney had 11.2 WAR that year.

18 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

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Its not about preferring it, it's the reality that scoring runs is the end all be all of offense and getting on base is the single most important factor involved. That said, a hit is preferable to a walk and that too has been mathed out.

wOBA, wRC+ -- both are worlds better by virtue of being park adjusted/weighted. Raw OPS has it's uses, it's fast and easy to find, so are the others to be honest, but it treats OBP and SLG% equally and is a worse indicator of "offensive potency" as a result.

The Angels had 19 baserunners today -- only scored 5 runs.  Outs are outs, but it's significantly harder to score a run on a K than it is a ground out or a fly out. Leading the league in Ks like the Angels did last year played a role in how a team that was 11th in HRs ranked 25th in runs scored -- ranking 26th in OBP didn't help either.

 

A single is more valuable than a walk, OPS agrees. If all you did was walk your OPS would 1,000. If you never walked and hit all singles your OPS would be 2,000. 

This was a great series. 

25 minutes ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

I remember Mark Grace pitching for the Diamondbacks, and he was imitating the mannerisms of one of their relief pitchers. The guys on the bench were rolling.

Wasn't he imitating Mike Fetters. 

I understand the rule. Watching position players lob balls over the plate sucks. I like it when they actually try though. I remember being surprised a couple times watching position players pitch. Wade Boggs knuckleball striking out Todd Greene. Chris Davis and Russell Martin looked pretty good the few times they pitched, they probably could have been relief pitchers if they worked on it.

57 minutes ago, SlappyUtilityMIF said:

That won't give you a 100% accurate figure when you're comparing players from different era's with differing time frames on the club. 

I just simply want to know the WAR leaders by position for time with the Angels.

21 minutes ago, SlappyUtilityMIF said:

Finley 52.0 WAR in 14 seasons vs. Nolan Ryan's 40.0 WAR in 8 seasons.

 

Finley Career WAR 58.3 17 seasons vs. Nolan Ryan Career WAR 83.6 in 23 seasons.

Is there an easy way to look up the leaders by position. I don't care about career, just WAR acquired while playing for the Angels. 

Who are the WAR leaders by position? I can't imagine anyone having a higher WAR than Chuck Finley at pitcher.

3 hours ago, Trendon said:

I wasn’t following transactions closely back then, so I’ll ask this and see if anyone who was can answer…

How/why did O’Day get taken in the Rule 5 draft from the Angels?

Most Rule 5 picks have never appeared in the majors before, but he did in 2008 before getting picked in 2009?

He was pretty decent in 2008, so how did he even end up off the 40?

If someone was gonna take him in the Rule 5 draft, why didn’t they just claim him on waivers (which he must’ve been on, otherwise he couldn’t have been taken off the 40-man roster)?

Angels were pretty stacked with talent back in 08-09.

15 minutes ago, cals said:

Oh yeah.  So that doesn’t help explain the drop off like the juiced ball does.

That's also if you want to believe him 

4 hours ago, cals said:

So it’s exactly what I said.  They wanted him to apologize for something he had no obligation to apologize for.  And whether it be stupidity or pride or simply and rightfully standing up for himself when he’s done nothing illegal, the dodgers decided that unless he apologized for being a victim they would cut him.

I know he’s not a likable person but this sets a dangerous precedent.  Punch a woman and apologize and you get your job back.  Be falsely accused and stand your ground and lose your career.

Nobody else sees this as problematic?

I read the Dodgers are interested in Chapman. Has he ever apologized?

Maybe Lacob can help open up the market in China like the NBA has.

Erstad definitely could have been better. He was too content grounding out to second in order to advance the runner. 

1 minute ago, happybat4 said:

Similar to Wally Joyner

On second thought Joyner had a pretty good career. 35 BWAR. I guess I just thought he wasn't as good since he never made all star teams 

34 minutes ago, Revad said:

That’s part of why Kotchman getting hit by that throw hurt, in my mind he was the new and improved Snow including a potential doubles machine.  Oh my fantasies…

Similar to Wally Joyner

Todd Greene for sure 

Jason Dickson 

George Arias 

Ramon Ortiz 

Howie Kendrick

Matt Wise 

Ben Molina 

Rob Quinlan 

1 hour ago, Blarg said:

I think you mean Lou Pote. He was an OK reliever then had shoulder problems. 

Damn autocorrect 

Lou Pore. I always thought he was going to be a good pitcher, never happened.

Latroy Hawkins

Noberto Martin. 

On 12/28/2022 at 10:41 AM, Blarg said:

He had 38 at bat's in Spring Training and was cut by the 3rd week. But he never played one official MLB game for the Angels. So he has no record of ever being part of their roster and they never paid him a dime since players don't get paid until the season starts. 

They gave him a jersey. He will always be an angel to me. 

Glen Allen Hill