kevinb

I think they are more 1-3 wins a year but the difference between a good and a bad GM is making the playoffs and winning the World Series and building long term and sustainable success rather than game to game success they have a big picture mindset a manager should only be focused on game to game

From all information that has come in on those two deals. It seems like Arte was the one doing the negotiations on Hamilton and Pujols and as much power as we want a GM to have it still is the owners team and he can do and say what he wants and sign who he wants. Also if Freeze wasn't that bad of a signing than you can't complain about it. And say it was a bad trade.

Do you think a good, average and bad manager with same a playoff team makes the playoffs with any of those types of managers listed above

He was hired with the Yankees after retiring. But he also played 2 years there so maybe he had a relationship. And you don't know why he was hired so all we are doing is assuming. It's not like he got some big hire it's a special assistant which who the heck knows what they are doing over there with that title. It's not like they hired him once retired to be baseball president. Isn't Greg Maddux still a special assistant somewhere?

I agree hated both those moves. But when being forced Pujols and Hamilton and having a constrained budget to work with maybe that's the kind of moves he had to make. Weren't you the one who was arguing that the Freese trade wasn't that bad or was that someone else. That Freese was actually good during his time here?

Mike isn't bad he just has issues. On a yearly basis how many wins does a manager get you a year? Does a bad manager make or miss the playoffs with the same team?

It happens all the time in sports. Isn't A Rod getting the same treatment special assistant something something title. I'm guess there's a lot of ex players who get this kind of stuff. They don't want to leave the baseball brotherhood. Why would they. It's what they grew up playing and they have I'm guessing life long relationships with ownerships front offices players and managers

So I guess we can check off a couple of things on Eppler as well. Could convince Arte to allow him to hire his own scouting director. Could convince Arte to allow him to hire his own manager. Couldn't convince Arte to get him to sign a left fielder or bullpen help or spend any money.

I agree that's why I said it's a token hire for an ex player to get his foot in the door in the front office.

Time will tell how he does with Seattle. I blame a lot of Jerrys faults in Anaheim on the Arte Mike dynamic than on Jerry himself. He's not blameless in it and the jury is still out on him as a GM but after 3 years in Seattle after being given the reigns I wonder if they will be better or worse than they are when he took over at the beginning of this season.

I don't know how scouting works in baseball but I'm guessing or at least hoping that major league baseball teams have a large number of scouts. Eric Chavez played baseball but being a special assistant which I'm not sure what that means. I'm guessing it's similar to an internship ish, than im hoping he doesn't have a bigger role in scouting than someone who has way more experience than one year.

His duties with the Angels will include on-field instruction during spring training and with the minor league affiliates; major league, minor league and some international scouting; and some special-assignment scouting.

As a GM you don't really have to be liked by the players tho. He's the one dealing with negotiations trades and building the roster the manager will I'm guessing always be more liked than a GM. As a manager you're dealing with the players on a day to day basis as a GM your looking at the big picture and don't have time to deal with individual players daily.

Brought in to help the team on the field not in the front office. Also Chavez outlined job is of special assistant which is on field instruction. Which I'm not sure what that means when you have manager and all these ex managers on the team supposedly who know what they are doing and some scouting from what fox sports reported his job was. So he wasn't this big hire it was a name I'm guessing more than anything. A token gesture to get an ex player into front office to help get his foot in the door for better things later on.

I can't remember who said it but they talked about how Mike has a problem with the young kids and shows his power by not starting them when they are brought up to exert his power in that way. Also with how our development of young kids he has the power I guess in that as well. Where he makes sure the kids are in each development league a year even if they have out grown that league. Again can't remember who said it but I thought it was @ScottyA_MWAH but could be totally wrong. And if that's the case tho with how he exerts power than he definitely shouldn't have a say in that stuff or at the very least very little say. I agree w @Oz27 the GM should have the most power a manager is there to strictly play out what the GM wants and how he has built the roster.

That was mostly towards the end of the year tho wasn't it?

I guess I always find it strange when a GM is brought in and doesn't really hire his own guys he just works with what he is given. I don't remember when he was hired much but I don't recall you hearing a bunch of names being brought in to film roles in the front office other than the token guy here and there. Like Bud Black and Ron etc which seems like it was to appease Mike. Did Eppler hire his own scouting people or personnel guys? It took until after the draft or was it right before the draft that the player personal draft guy was "fired" right? Just from my perspective it seemed just like Eppler wasn't given much say or he was nervous to rock the boat much

I think another thing that bothers people about Mike is his loyalty to veterans over giving chances to young guys. I just remember him playing Finley for the entire season while barely batting above 200 until finally in September making a change. It seems like he does that kind of stuff a lot. I don't watch other teams at all so I'm not sure how other managers do things but. It seems that kind of stuff rubs people and myself the wrong way

I think the biggest problem with Mike at the helm is the perceived or actual power struggle he has with the GM. Whether it was Reagens Dipoto or Eppler I'm curious to find out who has the control now and not just what is said in the media but in the front office who has the authority. I don't think a manager is worth more than 1-3 games a year. I think their philosophy and their wants and needs before the year starts has way more to do with the season than in game management. You can't make a guy hit or pitch well during the game as a manager I don't think. But just my opinion.

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They'll somehow fuck it up and get to 11 sign a free agent and lose the pick or fail to sign him due to being cheap

WTF Trout is a linebacker? He's not that big. Have you seen NFL linebackers they are huge.

Lets hope the Angels finish right above the protected pick cause that would be great long term

Napoli strikes again.

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