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44 minutes ago, Kendo36 said:

Trout basically said, try and put together a winner or trade me...

when.

lmao rendon pissing off the poors and people who topped out at jv baseball.

7 hours ago, mmc said:

 

good, i like that hes slated back to the rotation.

1 hour ago, mmc said:

 

maybe arte will finally move the team somewhere else.

id feel better too, not having to deal with the impending shadow of ohtanis departure and the scrutiny of a million cameras from all over the world following my every pitch and play.

im sure they enjoyed playing with the dude but im equally sure theyre glad to be rid of the media circus that followed him around.

if hes telling the truth and is actually going to stick around, maybe arte will finally start investing into foundational shit since hes obviously not pulling an ilitch and going balls to the wall to try and win before he dies or whatever.

21 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

Sorry, my response will likely come off a bit harsh but pretty much everything you said is incorrect and either the people you spoke to had no idea what actually happened or were gaslighting you hard.

Daniel, along with James Wilder, Jorge Oquendo and Jim Bowden were the primary focus under investigation by the FBI. MLB only became aware of the BS after the DOJ requested the financial/payroll records from the Reds, CWS, and Angels. MLB didn't choose to make Daniel an example, it was all brought to light by a Federal investigation that resulted in jail time.

Wilder was fired by the CWS after being followed and caught attempting to re-enter the country with 40K in cash. Bowden resigned as GM of the Nationals (Oquendo had started his BS while he worked under Bowden in Cinci, where Daniel also been a scout). Wilder was eventually sentenced to two years in federal prison after admitting to mail fraud in the scheme, and the 40K in his luggage. Oquendo got a year as did an underling of his. Bowden and Jose Rijo were eventually cleared of wrongdoing.

The White Sox guys; Wilder, scouts Domingo Toribo,and Victor Mateo, were far and away the most guilty but where they differed from what Daniel did is that they basically cut deals with the players and were getting kick-backs.  Daniel was found to have lied to the players - he offered them less money than had been actually authorized to them, essentially pocketing the difference. That very BIG difference is what hurt the Angels.  Where the common thought process in the DR and Venezuela at the time was that kick-backs, either to scouts or buscones (who cut deals with scouts), was part of the "cost of doing business", what Daniel did (mostly in Venezuela), was flat out steal from the players.

Thats why the Angels suffered aferwards.  They were labeled as crooks and untrustworthy in a part of baseball world where gaining a player's trust is vital and the first step in the process -- they were essentially blackballed.  Players wouldn't even TALK to the Angels guys for a long time and buscones basically steered everyone away from them since they felt THEY had been cheated even more given they tended to take a huge portion of the player's bonuses as part of their "expenses" for housing/training them.

Yes they essentially gave up and stayed out of the market, but it was 100% a response to how they were viewed immediately after the BS went down.

maybe the angels really are cursed. i wanna see a 30 for 30 on this now.

On 1/17/2024 at 3:19 PM, CaliAngel said:

There are many reasons fans think Rendon is a clubhouse cancer, and "he doesn't talk to the media" is not even one of them.

name some.

1 hour ago, ThisismineScios said:

I don't feel bad for Perry in any way, not that anyone asked. 

I am not "mad" they haven't signed an expensive or big name guy. I'll be fine if they do, probably not too upset if they don't.

But when you talk the way he's talked (more on that in a minute), hire Ron Washington+Porter+EYS, lose Ohtani (more on that), brag about it, then Ron talks the way he's talked about running down the West, returning to greatness, and winning...you had better show everyone that you mean it. And I think blaming the market or Arte for a lack of progress is pretty ignorant. It doesn't seem like he has a plan. 

...

Finally, the reason I don't feel bad for him is that in addition to promising the world and delivering a gas station sandwich collection of pitchers so far, HE is choosing to work for Arte. If Arte is really as controlling as some think, refusing to allow Perry to make a single move or transaction, why would you ever want to work for someone like that? I get there are only 30 GM jobs and the prestige, but it makes Perry seem like an extremely incompetent GM. You're fine being seen as a joke and the guy that lost Ohtani, wasted Trout, and couldn't surround him with talent so you could be a figurehead GM? That's not worth it to me. Go be an AGM somewhere and prepare for the next job. 

im neutral on perry but these two points are kinda bad.

1. if arte isnt spending then what can perry possibly do? how can you sign anybody if youre not allowed to sign anybody?

2. plenty of people work for shitty bosses all the time. this is one of the staples of society. also i dont think he's viewed as any of those, tho. right or wrong, losing ohtani and trout being "wasted" are all laid at arte's feet. if anything, working for artes given any gm under him a get out of jail free card.

On 12/30/2023 at 5:08 AM, Stradling said:

Haha. Ok. And let’s pretend your opinion of choke on a bag of dicks is the normal opinion. 

wanting the doyers to choke on a bag of dicks is a pretty normal opinion to have for like 80% of the country so i dont really have to pretend there.

lmao francos fucked. what a dummy.

1 hour ago, Taylor said:

Looking forward to the "It’s time we consider signing Wander Franco" thread in a few years.

Everyone deserves a second chance, right? 

trying to compare a dude whos been proven to be framed by a weirdo gold-digging player-groupie ho with an actual pedo is something else, man.

8 hours ago, nando714 said:

he says no free agents he knows want to play for arte unless he overpays. He says it’s known as the worst ran organization in terms of day to day life 

the lack of facilities and amenities (training, recovery, etc.) is big within players.

thats weird, i thought arte ignored infrastructural, foundational shit but actually spent for big league stuff.

4 hours ago, nando714 said:

He also said , worst city for food- St Louis , they provide players boxed meals at the stadium 

best city for food- Mets , they have their own personal chef for the away teams.

tbf, if i were an owner, id also try to serve the away team the cheapest shittiest food possible cause who cares, fuck em.

blah blah blah. fuck the doyers and fuck ohtani for choosing the doyers. they can both choke on a bag of dicks.

its cool that some of you weirdos are ok with still slobbing all over ohtani but stop acting like thats the normal position to have.

8 hours ago, Dtwncbad said:

Looks 6.

Content 3.

Barely worth commenting on.

bruh, she aint a 6. shes mid at best.

lmao free agents rebuffing sf is funny as fuck. id feel kinda bad about it if i didnt hate their shit city but i do so i dont.

hes gonna suck ass.

"hey is snell any cheaper?"

- "no"

"oh. ok."

angels have had convo with snell.

21 hours ago, Erstad Grit said:

I think you're getting good news overload then lol

i wont truly be content until i wake up to news that bellinger signed with some other team.

no news is goods news as far as im concerned. i dont think theres a single player left that i want them to get.

1 minute ago, Angels_Make_Me_Drink said:

The Rays usually win trades...Dodgers going all in. Wonder if they pulled the trigger now because they got news on Yamamoto? Or wonder if they pulled it with the Yamamoto deal having no impact on their decision making.

contingent on an extension makes me wanna think they feel like yamamoto's not signing but idk how much glasnow is expected to get and idk what the max even is for the fucking doyers.

50 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

i dont believe this because of ohtanis opt-out clause dependent on whether certain fo personnel are kept or not. during his 6 years he saw 4 different managers and 2 gms. he was never gonna come back.

sign him so i can see if the people who say theyll stop following the team actually stop following the team.

if true, also means the all-in trades like giolito dont happen.

arte is his own worst enemy.

ohtani, simba, pujols in that order.