Angels in 2030

With our recent good streak, was now hoping for a lottery. Oh well, so who's the best pitching prospect in the #7-10 range? especially from the college ranks. Reality is that it's way too early to talk mock draft stuff unless you are in the top 2-3. Hopefully we get a full season of HS and college ball to properly evaluate.

The Red Sux are a different comparison to the Angels though as they are expected to contend every year with the yanks. One bad year is all that town/franchise will take. So maybe Dom was brought in with the understanding he'd turn it around ASAP rather than continuing to build the farm. IDK honestly. But i don't think it's a straight parallel to us and say he'd do the exact same thing. Ultimately, it's Arte's team and his desire for what he wants that will likely control what we get & how the team is run for 2021+.

Look, i'm certainly not advocating trading all the prospects for one run (ala AJ Preller in 2014/2015 for the Padres). Far from it -- i'm a farm system building/foundation mindset guy. I'm just saying it's funny people worried about a change because we might be bad for a long time. Like ignoring the fact we are currently (& have for years) been dog-shit and an after-thought in MLB (post-season...not off-season). It's not like we have a bright future or a top 5 farm system. We should...but we don't. Somehow the Mariners with DiPoto have a brighter future (WTW?!?!).

Why is anyone worrying about being dog-shit after a few years of winning, etc. Do you not realize that we CURRENTLY are dog-shit. We had the 10th worst record last year. We are even worse this year. Half the teams are making the playoffs and we are not even in the playoff hunt in a 60 game season. That's how bad we are. It can't get much worse. Heck, we're likely better off being worse because then we'd have a direction (rebuild) for once. Right now we're in no-man's land. Not good enough to make a bloated playoffs; but not bad enough to completely sell-off and rebuild. We are completely insignificant...bordering on invisible. I really don't care what we do, as long as it's something different and something with a clear purpose.

Good article and on-point. Arte being star driven to the detriment of the rest of the organization. This should be a great job and easy one -- yet we have a clear history of years of failure. Something isn't right. It does make some valid points in support of Dom for the new GM. Someone with vast experience and some power & conviction to force Arte's hand for true changes. Not just spend on player X -- but organizational needs up & down (scouts, etc.). I'm a bit now more in support, if Eppler is gone, to get a veteran GM who won't be taking the job just for the opportunity to get one of the few positions -- but who will take it only with the condition (hopefully) to do it their way and have full power throughout.

I’m expecting more out of our players than an 87 OPS+....but you do you. also that was last year for Thaiss. if you are happy with our depth, then I don’t know what to say to you.

This year, Walsh has been fantastic. That's one. Ward seems like recently he might have finally turned a corner and can be a decent ML player. Hence me saying "hopefully our youth is ready to make that jump". But It's a small sample size to get crazy about these two and think we have gold. Thaiss has been horrible -- i'd like to see you spin that. Meanwhile the rest of our youth has "sucked" -- Rengifo, Adell, Hermosillio, etc. (not to mention on the pitching side).

Lol how many fan bases are posting some of the same stuff - we are one ace, a #3 and a Good RP away? Most might even only need just one or two of those. btw, we also need to improve our depth. When guys get hurt in our lineup, our replacement guys usually really suck compared to other teams. Maybe our youth is ready to make that jump and improve this area. We always think that though and it doesn’t happen.

Bumping up the tank thread. 6 games to go and 4.5 games out.....we're done. Only thing left to do is lose. These last 6 games are meaningless. Make it happen Joe!

The LAD love those ST big dollar deals over long-term....especially so for pitchers. So if he does go with the one-year, then the LADs seem like a perfect fit. But he seems to be waffling a bit on it now. I don't see the Angels getting him. Honestly, i'm not sure i'd want them too unless it was 1-3 year route. FA is mostly fools gold. But desperate times....

One thing I wish the Angels FO would look into this off-season is extending Bundy. I would seriously look at add an additional 3 yr extension -- so combined around 4/60 for the next four years. That's some really good money and security for Bundy and a decent deal for a team so desperate for SP and an innings eater. Now if he won't at all, then I'm more inclined to trade him during 2021 (unless we are contending). But you don't seem to see these types of deals much in MLB.

Anyone dreaming of Trevor Bauer signing with Angels this offseason better revise their plans. Based on his recent Comments of what he wants - well let’s just say it’s pretty much the opposite description of the Angels.

Detmers works fast -- but maybe it's just the environment. Very few guys getting any wood on the bat that's for sure. William Holmes physically looks like a man now -- much different from his HS draft time. A man who can't throw a strike, but a man nonetheless.

My off-season prediction on this: simba is not in the club plans for 2021+ and we go after pitching. After failed attempts to do so, Simba is still out there and we circle back re-signing him (maybe just a 1-year deal).

you just know that an 0-4 with 4k's is coming today, right? it would be perfect after the start of this thread. I'm joking of course...but it would make perfect sense lol

Sorry IP, but i'm going to take this and dream big for the time being. We deserve this....a guy from the farm who comes up and way out-performs expectations to become an impact player. When was the last time this happened for the Angels? How about Wally Joyner 2.0 (i'll take it!). Fletcher wasn't highly touted and has turned into a great player for us. But not a truly impact bat/arm. Everybody else seems to have these guys (Dodgers WAY too many lately) except for us. So why not us!?! I refuse to hear otherwise....hands-over-ears nahnahnahnahnahnah (i'm not listening). BTW: Just imagine how we'd be reacting if this was Adell's production line. It would be crazy. Oh, well.....2022 for Adell after he gets things straighten out in 2021 and fixes some things.

Just in time for some dumb GM to make a Vernon Well's like trade for him this offseason and take most of his his last two years salary/contract off our hands. OK, i'm awake now.

2021 MLB draft guy says - good job last two nights Angels!

I agree with you actually. It's just i'm frustrated doing the same thing over & over. I think both ways have their plus & minuses. There is not clear and easy answer. Well, resigning Simba and spending on pitching -- but i don't see that happening. I see limited funds to spend this offseason. Trades will be the option to go. I personally just am concerned giving $10M+/yr to simba when there are other issues. I'd rather get one stud RP and go young at SS (even if that means weakening defense up the middle). But we're talking 51/49 confidence in that option. Heck, another option could be to trade for a short-term cheaper defensive SS -- which is much easier to do than trading for pitching these days. You can keep Fletch at 2B and we'd have more funds to spend on P. There are more options than simply overspending on Simba. But maybe Simba will have very little options and he'll returns for $7-8M (very, very unlikely).

Yeah but how many WS titles did Ted Williams win compared to Trout?

Or you use that extra money to give you the winning bid for that front line starter. Or instead use it to fortify the BP -- or have we already forgotten about the bad BP after just a few good outings. Simmons may very well end up costing more than 10M/year. Again, it's not an easy call. You plug one hole and open up another. But we have a SS option in Fletcher. Not equal in defense obviously. But that decrease in D + a (theoretical) increase in pitching is > than Simba + our same ol' crappy batch of Ps. What happens if in 2021 Simba's defensive decline starts to begin.....or he simply can't stay healthy and on the field? I guess some want to continue doing the same thing over & over and expect a different result.

Yeah, i hear you AO but then again...there's no guarantee Simba can stay healthy for 150+ games a year. He keeps breaking down and that's a bad trend at his age. Not to mention, eventually that elite D is going to fade some. Not to bad, but the injuries and only great (instead of amazing) D makes me less inclined to re-up him considering all the other deficiencies on the P staff. It's basically what do you want to sacrifice? We've already seen this story. Time to try something else.

Even at $10M/year (low end likely) -- i don't see how any Angel fan could support resigning Simmons when we need pitching so bad. I'm not even talking SP...how much better is this BP if you spent $10M on it? Yes, RP is up/down, but getting one or two proven vet guys would go a long ways to improve the team. I'd first use that money on a SP, but fallback would be on 1-2 RPs.

We’re finding the answer to the OPs question: yes

Cheap and a LHed bat is exactly what this lineup needs -- plus actually being good. Walsh should play everyday here-on-out to see if this is valid results. If so, bodes well for 2021. IDK is he plays 1B or DH in getting those ABs this year.. Preferably 1B, but i'm fine letting Albert have some meaningless ABs this year if it means less AP in 2021. If Walsh keeps this up, in 2021, he should be the starting 1B against RHers and DH on non-Ohtani days. AP can PH and occasionally get starts against LHers.