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Dont go for HR every at bat.

I do believe save conversion rate is a good stat for closers. However the difference was 7 blown saves. About one every two years played. There isnt much difference.

You are talking about a .7 difference.

Like you said, they looked at things differently 50 years ago. Hell just by watching Hollywood movies of those times, its no wonder why domestic violence was so common.

So those stats are more important than actually closing out games. For a closer the object of the game is to not let the opponent tie the game or win the game. So i really do not care if he gets all strikouts or closes it with a DP.

I am willing to bet there are a lot more HOF members who have hit their wives. I am sure just over 50% of the ones who played in the 30s, 40s, 50s, and 70s have hit their wives.

My bad, will edit it. I misread the news report.

There is a lot of love for Wagner to get into the HOF. However, none for KRod. Both played 16 years. Wagner has better ERA, ERA +, Whip, FIP. KRod has more Saves, holds the record for most saves in a season, won a WS, and was a closer for 5 playoff teams. A Closer does play a pivotal role in winning championship. And it could be argued without KRod in 2002, Angels don't win the WC let alone the WS. And i have been told many times on this board that ERA for a meaningless stat. And for a closer, their ultimate job is to save the game and close it out.

Forgive me. I was thinking the time they were in Anaheim. They still will be California Angels to me.

California was their first name. Would love to see it back.

Stolen bases must mean a lot to War

I hope Ohtani sucks....against the Angels. I am pretty ambivalent about the rest of the time. Although it would bring me joy if Dog fans lose it if he doesnt live up to their "godlike " expectations

I am been a fan of this shitty seventies, through three good years and rest shitty 80s, back to shit 90s. Patience is a requirement to be an true Angel fan

Missing the point. Angels had a choice to trade him or not. They had to ask are we going to re-sign him or not. If not, then they should trade. Would it have turned the Angels into champions? Maybe not, but getting assets in return for a diminishing asset was the smart play. They were not smart

At this stage Baur is a no brainer. We need pitching. The allegations were false.

At the trade deadline: Trout, Rendon, And Drury were all on the IL. Yes we were close to a playoff spot but with the injuries things were bleak. It was a dumbass move not to trade him if you werent all in.

My point is he is given money (either in direct payment or in deferred payments) for ten years of work. The entire contract should be based on ten year average. Thats all. I don't mind Ohtani going to the Dogs. I mind the "loophole" to avoid the tax. I dont like it.

So they know exactly how much interest rate will average over time? Bullshit. He is paid during his first ten years for first ten years of service. He just doesnt access 68 million. Dies his account collect interest duribg that ten years?

Thats what i thought. I still dont understabd why differed money is counted less than real money.

2 mil x 10 years = 20 million 44 mil x 10 years = 46 million So how is his contract 700 million?

It doesnt work that way. For ten years, Ohtani will get 2 million for direct pay, and another 68 million put into a deferred account. Dogs pay 70 million for ten years. Ohtabi collects 10 million fir furst ten years and then collect 68 million a year for the next ten.

This

Not trading him is the dumbest in baseball since Red Sox traded Babe Ruth.

All the more to appreciate the loyalty of Weaver, Trout and Salmon. That was the point of the post. Not to bash Ohtani but to comment on loyalty.

For the most part well said. I agree completely on Trout, Weaver, and Salmon. Maybe a little harsh on Ohtani "being disloyal". But we should really appreciate true loyalty of the other three.