Angels Never Die

You know what, I'm sorry I even responded to your last post, since it was such a blatant pivot and obfuscation of the issue. You're trying to change the subject from systemic police brutality to what is essentially a pull yourself up by the bootstraps argument, which stinks of an underlying implication of "well maybe black people shouldn't do crime if they don't want to be murdered by cops." I don't know what you're responding to exactly when you say I resort to insults, but it seems like a complaint that would fit with the priorities you've expressed here.

So systemic oppression exists for black people but it has no explanatory power over these statistics? Racism and systemic oppression doesn't lead to poorer socioeconomic circumstances and discriminatory criminal justice practices? And those things don't lead to broken families? Hey, get this, when more police are sent to an area, guess what, they find more crime there. Shocking right? Also, when people are in poor socioeconomic conditions, guess what they don't get, great legal defenses in court, which might lead to higher rates of conviction, no? And people in poorer socioeconomic circumstances just never turn to crime out of desperation from those circumstances, right? It's all a choice, huh? Jfc, do you watch Les Miserables and see Jean Valjean as the bad guy because he stole food? How simple things must be for you. As to your point about other non-white groups doing better than black people, it's a complete false equivalence. Even though other non-white groups experience discrimination and oppression in their own right, that doesn't mean it's on the same level as black Americans. The history and systemic treatment is different, older, and more severe.

So since the idea wasn't communicated literally and directly that means it wasn't communicated? Yeah, when the paramount issue here is black people being treated like second class citizens by the state, and when they INEVITABLY lash out about that unacceptable state of affairs, people whine about property being destroyed? It passively communicates that property is more important than civil rights. The offense is extreme, so we shouldn't be surprised when the response to that offense is extreme. You're being existentially threatened and the system thinks it can get away with it because there won't be sufficient consequences for their actions, guess what happens, people create some consequences for those actions. If it takes property being destroyed in order for black communities to get justice, then I don't have a problem with that.

And I love that people are more concerned about stuff being stolen from some Target over the existential threat the police have become to black communities.

Like I said (which you ignored,) they CAN be compared in the larger problem of police abuse/brutality in this country, but there's a subset of that abuse that is fundamentally different because it deals with systemic racial biases which affects black people more. They're tangentially related, but they're ultimately not the same subject that's necessarily in need of the same societal response. Although I'm not fundamentally against political violence for the issue of police violence in general (outside of a racial historical context.) We'd all "like" to think that, but that's a naive thing to just assume. Trying to change the focus of this issue from black communities inevitably lashing out against systemic oppression to what one can do to appease their abusers better, is a dishonest attempt to downplay what black people have experienced for a very long time in this country.

Oh yeah, it's that simple. Either it's always ok, or it's never ok huh? The preceding events have no fucking relevance whatsoever. You are being very dishonest in your framing of the two things, and clearly reaching for some imagined double standard where you've been victimized the way black people have in this country by the police.

I mean, they're both relevant to the general discussion of police abuse of power, but no, they're not comparable in the sense that white people have not been historically systemically targeted by the police in the same way that black people have. It's completely dishonest to suggest the societal contexts are the same.

Considering one is in the context of a temporary response to an extremely unique circumstance of a pandemic that is extremely important we curtail through social distancing policies, and one is in the context of centuries of unjustified racist oppression of black people by the state, I think it's a tad fucking different.

Oh yeah, that's totally comparable as long as you completely ignore the different historical and societal contexts of the two cases.

They have, they're called TERF's.

Not surprised a milquetoast neolib whinged about not having "peaceful" protests. Fuck Obama and fuck Trump.

But wait, I thought political violence wasn't effective?

It's an inevitable consequence to treating people as second class citizens who can be murdered by the state with impunity.

I totally approve of the riots.

The other Biden. Very underrated.

I would never joke about that, I've got friends who are juggalos.

I'll be countersuing in comic sans.

I forgot someone I think I would've rather picked. Kelvim Escobar. Think about what difference it would've made if we had 2-3 healthy seasons from him.

What did LT do?

She's a cutie, always liked her

I'll make it for you one day, you'll like it.

Onions, carrots, celery, beans, soyrizo, and marinara sauce. That's more than just beans, sir, like five more things. So, take that.

Vegan Chili

Bo Jackson could've been such a great baseball player if he just focused on that. It's fun to think about.

Good choice, I totally forgot about Morales.