Angels Never Die

I guess there's news now saying the tweet about "we're going into white hoods" or whatever, was a "fake" account tied to some white nationalist group. https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/02/tech/antifa-fake-twitter-account/index.html https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/twitter-takes-down-washington-protest-disinformation-bot-behavior-n1221456

Let me guess, Antifa is whoever the government doesn't like.

Honestly, I just want to go back to the california angels design altogether.

Meanwhile, there's a shitload of archived baseball (and basketball) on youtube that I only would've dreamed of back in the 2000's. I'm trying to appreciate that.

I suppose more players will be going to college or finishing college this year. Maybe not the worst things in the world I guess.

Yeah, give me a few minutes, I'll just solve systemic racism and the fascist police state we're in. And of course the solution will include conservatism (it's not like they're racist) and Jesus (black people don't go in for Jesus enough apparently.) Fucking hell.

So? What, do you need me to pick a single individual to blame?

Republicans too.

So me saying this isn't just about George Floyd is tantamount to me saying it has nothing to do with his death? It's a catalyzing event, he's become a symbol. Did I say this is the way to fix everything? Nope, I didn't. I'm saying wtf do you expect to happen?

Policy makers? Police? DA? General neglect by our society? People who deny racism exists anymore? The 1 percent?

You're incredibly naive if you think this is about just George Floyd and not decades of systemic abuse. It was the spark that exposed what has been festering for a long time.

Sort of how I feel about people who support the police.

I thought I gave a sufficient response, but I guess not. I think your question is stupid because I don't think my feelings in response to my family being harmed have any relevance to the topic, you're just trying to get some meaningless hypocrisy gotcha. I don't know how I'd feel afterwards, but I hope I wouldn't change my view on it just because it happened to land on my doorstep. If I did though, I don't think it would aid your argument in the slightest. It's like a religious person bragging about a deathbed conversion, wow you must be so proud that your belief was more palatable to someone who was scared, in pain, and vulnerable. It's not an impressive argument, nor is it relevant to the points I made.

I'm looking forward to it.

How would you feel if your family and community were harassed and harmed and killed and over-policed and over-incarcerated and treated like they were disposable for generations? I certainly would be upset if my family were harmed by rioters (duh), just like I'd be upset if they were harmed by the police. I don't see how your question is relevant. This reaction is a reaction to something very fucking serious that affects black people on a daily basis, it's an existential threat. Is this an ideal solution? Fuck no, but is it understandable and justifiable based on the gravity of things? Yes. I don't put a lot of stock in the "what if my family were harmed" position because it implies that somehow harm coming to me is unacceptable, but the harm coming to black communities is acceptable. People in power need to see that there will be consequences to this injustice. Why are people so much more upset about some property getting stolen and damaged than they are about black people getting treated like second class citizens? Riots are inevitable when you push people this far. If you're fundamentally against political violence though, there isn't a whole lot I can say to convince you, which is fine. It wasn't that long ago when I was saying the same thing.

Of course rioting is unlawful, that doesn't need to be said as everyone knows that. As far as it being wrong, I'd say it's extremely complex, especially when Chauvin was arrested after police clashed with protesters and riots ensued. It's an oversimplification that these riots are only about George Floyd's murder, these riots are clearly in response to a larger culture of black people being treated as disposable by police for a long time. To expect riots to just stop once he's been arrested is a little naive, as riots aren't really led by some formal committee. Honest question: are you fundamentally against political violence?

Nah, I'll keep being an ass to someone who was trying to bait me with a lie.

Yes, I made it, you side stepped it. I'm gonna keep doing this until you admit you tried to gotcha me with something that was entirely untrue.

You said the arrest preceded the riots, it didn't, and now you keep trying to pivot because you got called on it.

Keep on pivoting. Ignore that what you said was inaccurate.

Wtf are you talking about? You said the arrest preceded the riots, I show you it didn't.

Um no, he wasn't. There were riots on Thursday, he was arrested Friday. What am I missing?

Ridin' with Biden (ugh)

Actually this is exactly what I was taught in public school about it. What is your point?