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  1. On 11/23/2022 at 9:05 AM, Dtwncbad said:

    If at 23 Adell has been given enough time to prove himself, then to be consistent you would have to release every player in your system that is 23 or over.  If Adell is a failure at 23 reaching the majors then the rest are worse since none of them could even get to the majors yet.

    No it’s not over for Adell.  He may never been a star on defense but he still has time to level up with the bat and have a really good career.

    Any player can ultimately be a bust on the downside, but at this point his upside is still a career with 300+ homers.

     

     

    He has had ample opportunities to show some real improvement at the plate and in the field. He is an outstanding athlete but he lacks basic baseball instincts. When he was drafted with the tenth pick, he came with a lot of swing and miss in his game. This hasn’t changed up to this point. The fact that he still takes bad routes to the ball in the outfield after five years in the organization tells me he lacks the ability to focus in the field. 
    At the plate, he still has way below average pitch recognition which is essential to cutting down on strikeouts. 
    He  should spend this next season in AAA to be drilled in the fundamentals once again to see if he has a breakthrough. He has little trade value at this point so he has to improve by a lot or he will probably be moved next offseason. 

  2. 10 hours ago, ThisismineScios said:

     Moniak  is the same age as Marsh, and had a great spring. They were pushing hard for him to get the CF job but Girardi said he needed more ABs. Then he got hurt. He has 100 ABs. He’s not a massive bust. Not yet at least. 

    Correction: he had a dominant spring. And was in line to have the job but got hurt the last game of spring. Came back and didn’t get consistent at bats. 

    Two weeks of ST is hardly enough of a sample size. He has had other opportunities and failed. Right now he is hitting .120

  3. 2 hours ago, angelsnationtalk said:

    I gave it a B for salary dump purposes....

    But Perrys comments yesterday has me scared shitless for net season. The Angels have no clue what to do.
    They're nowhere near being ready to compete. 

    I give him a C-. Trading Marsh is a negative but getting a possible starting Catcher for the next several years is a big plus. The problem is that the Angels lack quality OFers in the upper levels of the system which is a big negative. The Syndergaard trade was a huge negative even by Minasian’s standards. The salary dump of Iglesias had to come from Arte, if not what a horrific move. Wait until the off season and make Iglesias available to all the other teams. I was really afraid that he would have traded Ohtani and not get a reasonable return. 

  4. 1 hour ago, angelsnationtalk said:

    I gave it a B for salary dump purposes....

    But Perrys comments yesterday has me scared shitless for net season. The Angels have no clue what to do.
    They're nowhere near being ready to compete. 

    Minasian is in way over his head. His deals at the deadline were amateurish except for the Marsh-O’Hoppe deal. He gave away Syndergaard for absolutely nothing. Taking back Moniak was the most stupid move ever. The Phillies traded a top prospect for Marsh because they were desperate to get a legitimate CF. Minasian acquires the CF from the Phillies who couldn’t win the CF job after being a #1 overall pick in 2016. That is assinine. 

    Until Arte relinquishes control of the organization to a real Baseball man, experienced in running a successful organization, the Angels will be competing for the basement in the West.  

  5. 19 hours ago, Trendon said:

    He’s owed 3/$48M after this season for his age 33, 34, and 35 seasons.

    The Angels would probably be better off re-allocating that $16M AAV, especially since they already have $14M in AAV tied up between Loup and Tepera (who likely don’t have trade value).

    The value would mainly lie in freeing up the money to make the team more well-rounded, but it’s possible they could get a useful piece in return.

    While Iglesias has a high ERA, his peripherals are still very good (3.21 FIP, 2.71 xFIP, 12.94 K/9) and he has a very good career track record. Closers are always in demand, so I’d imagine there’d be interest.

    It would be hard to find a taker for Iggy unless the Angels absorb a big part of his contract. Other teams would be leery of a mid-thirties pitcher for three years, especially based on this season so far. If traded maybe he could return a just outside the top thirty and a lottery ticket. 

  6. 3 hours ago, beatlesrule said:

    putting their losing streak at 12 before playing the Royals. 3 games against the Astros, 2 vs the Dodgers all at home before the ASB and then 3 against the Braves on the road. Now, they do have a chance to win when Ohtani or Sandoval pitches but it's very possible they will lose all 8 games. The losing streak thread might have to return unfortunately. I would have to think though that they can win at least ONE of those games and possibly 2(Ohtani and Sandoval starts) so I am holding out some hope that they won't go to Kansas City on a 12 game losing streak. Let's face it, even KC can sweep the Angels pushing the streak to 15 games. The Angels finish 4 against the Rangers at home and the Rangers are also capable of sweeping that series. I am not going to go there though.

    What do you think their record will be for these next 8 games against some of the very best teams in baseball? What about the rest of the month?

    The Angels scored 20 runs on the nine game trip. I think they get swept by Houston and split with the Dodgers. You don’t always know how a team responds coming out of the break but I think they may win one game against the Braves. Now if Trout can roll back the clock three years they may have a chance to win a few games. 

  7. 20 hours ago, Torridd said:

    Please give your legitimate ideas. We have to score more than 3 runs daily.

    Baseball is a simple game. The Angels need to score more runs than they give up to win. 
    The offense is essentially four guys who are All-Star quality. Two of the four are future HOFers. The other two are solid hitters and plus defenders. Unfortunately, the other five in the lineup are below average hitters ( Stassi and Marsh) while the other three are a complete black hole. Bottom line, the Angels need better players. So far, Minasian has been unable to produce as GM, in part because of the restrictions that Arte puts on payroll and his aversion to signing Starting Pitchers to long term contacts. Lorenzen  and Thor are okay and Ohtani is a TOR starter and Sandoval is a legit number two. Now for the massive “white elephant” in the room, the bullpen as a whole, is completely inadequate. Iglesias had a couple of hiccups during the losing streak, but is still a solid closer. The obvious problem is the rest of the bullpen, Loup has been horrible, Tepera is no eighth inning guy. Quijada had been the best non-closer until last night. Overall, he is a reliable pen piece. Herget is okay, the rest aren’t. With the way the game is played today it is mandatory to build a pitching staff from back to front. Having a good closer is worthless if you can’t reach the ninth inning with a lead. Usually teams can fill the rest of the pen from within the organization but not the Angels. The offseason priorities have to start with the bullpen, an all around good to great SS, at least two mid-rotation starters and a much better quality bench. This is a tall task for Minasian, he either produces or he needs to go. 

  8. As far as the offense goes everyone can cut down on the Strikeouts. Put the ball in play and good things can happen, absolutely nothing good comes from a strikeout. Conversely, the pitchers need to be much more aggressive in the strike zone. They constantly either pitch from behind the count or get ahead of the count and then try to nibble. I lay some of this on Matt Wise, who is responsible for his pitchers’ approach to the at bats. He is also responsible for instilling confidence in his pitchers. Minasian should have replaced Wise at the same time that he relieved Maddon of his duties. 

  9. On 3/13/2022 at 4:07 PM, ScottSted said:

    Villar is a lot better than any of these guys

    Villar turned down 6.5 miillion from the Jays which is too much for Arte to spend when he has three guys on either the minimum or in Wade’s case maybe 1.5 million. 
     

    Bottom line, Arte isn’t interested in winning, if he was he wouldn’t keep the payroll at the same level for years. He certainly won’t go near 210 million, since he opposed the increase in the CBT. There are so many things that need to go right for this team to win 90 games. 

  10. On 2/20/2022 at 5:17 PM, Trendon said:

    To be confident with this current roster? More than two-thirds of MLB.

    I was confident they'd get in with 16 in 2020, and that didn't happen. I don't feel drastically more confident in this version of the team in 2022 than I did with the 2020 team entering the 2020 shortened season.

    I can only confidently say this current roster is better than Baltimore, Detroit, Kansas City, and Texas (among AL teams).

    Detroit might be a stretch. They have better starting pitching and have a strong system. It really depends on how many games are actually played. With a shortened season of around 120 games, the six man rotation would work against the Angels. Also, it depends on if Oakland decides to unload their starting pitching. 

  11. If Ohtani were to be traded, how would the Angels come up with a price? The cost should be astronomical in prospect capital. How many teams can afford to pay the 400-500 million it would take to sign him to a long term contract? Then it would take a combo of top quality prospects and no payroll limit. IF Ohtani stays healthy and the Angels decide to re-sign him, I would hope that they front load the contract and not go over five years and 250 million. The club will be hamstrung by the big three contracts and a system that isn’t producing at a high enough level to fill the other positions.
     

    It is always nice to have Superstars but I wiuld much rather have Tampa Bays organization, where there are high end players throughout the system.

  12. On 1/23/2022 at 11:01 AM, AngelStew43 said:

    Detmers.  I think we should explore turning Canning into a late inning reliever. 

    No thanks. Canning, even when healthy had trouble with  allowing the HR. 
      He needs to work on his command. He needs to work ahead in the count to be successful which has been a problem in the past. I will always support a fellow Bruin so I wish him the best. 

  13. On 1/17/2022 at 3:46 PM, ten ocho recon scout said:

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    Was arguing with someone about a particular player, who I was a big fan of, but I think is overrated.

    And I started mentioning guys from the past who had far better numbers, but nobody remembers. As Angel fans, Tim Salmon works perfect here. And that recent Abreu thread I think was pretty surprising, and hes a good example.

    Anyway, I was looking up guys from the past that nobody remembers, or at least talks about, and one who really surprised me was Shawn Green. I totally forgot he was a pretty decent base stealer too, to go along with his power numbers.

    Who you got?

    He was highly skilled at using PEDs at the same time as Eric Gagne. 

  14. On 1/22/2022 at 6:36 PM, DCAngelsFan said:

    Interesting - what involvement does he have with the Twins?  

    Sorry he feels that way -  he was involved with the club post-retirement, but I mean, at this point, I'm not sure what he wants - he retired before most of the current players were born, and other than taking photos with fans in the stadium, I'm not really sure what role he could play.

     

      

    How about as a roving Minor League hitting instructor. Of course, he wouldn’t be able to teach launch angle but he was the master of top spin ground balls through the infield or hitting against the shift.

  15. 4 hours ago, HeavenlyHalos said:

    That would be...unexpected. Play first and Walsh is part of a pitching trade rather than, or in addition to, Jo/Marsh???

    Play corner OF and Jo/Marsh part of a trade??

    The Angels don’t have money to pay for pitching but they can afford Bryant? Why would you trade Walsh? It has been a long time since the Angels have had a legitimate 1B with power and average, drives in runs and plays GG caliber defense. I would take Walsh with his five years of control over Bryant any day. Bryant hasn’t been that impactful in his career. I pass.

     

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