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If it’s determined Schanuel needs a little space to develop Votto is a guy who wouldn’t block him from coming back up when ready.
Could there be a better mentor for Nolan Schanuel than Joey Votto? Both plate discipline extraordinaires Votto has gone from a guy that sacrificed some power in favor of superior OBP then switched to tapping into max power… understands hitting as well as anybody.
Dismiss the clubhouse presence at your own peril. This team could absolutely use a spokesman on the 26 man and you’d be hard pressed to find a better clubhouse leader and ally for Anthony Rendon than Joey Votto. Votto may now be universally loved but has gone thru stretches where many didn’t like him for both his approach at the plate and fiery personality that has led to his fair share of spats.
Trout hasn’t played with a vet that has charisma like Votto since Torii. I think Votto’s presence would help him on a daily basis too.
If Schanuel does make the team as the 1B/ DH vs RHP, Votto was great vs LHP in 2023 and has always his same handed pitching well over his career (131 wRC+). Votto is also potentially a better defensive first baseman than Schanuel.
Votto was a bit below average in 2023 while coming back from major shoulder injury, but his .231 ISO was great and he suffered from terrible batted ball luck.
He might be a good contributor, he would definitely be beneficial for the clubhouse, and if Schanuel forces his way into a regular role and Votto can’t earn consistent ABs, he’s not the type (like Pujols was) to make it a clubhouse problem. I don’t really see any downside and think there’s a good bit of upside... maybe a ton.
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7 hours ago, Angelsfan1984 said:
Honestly, they could put bellinger and Martinez in the lineup and it would be legit. I’d be ok if they went light on the rotation and let the kids deal.
Schanuel
neto
trout
bellinger
martinez
ohoppe
rendon/drury
Rengifo
moniak/adell
JD and Belli would make this lineup very strong. I personally want to see O’Hoppe DH whenever he doesn’t catch so am not pushing for JD. But I can’t deny how formidable the squad would look with these two bats added.
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3 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:
B'more and Minn doing absolutely nothing has been a bit of a surprise. Both teams are ready to win now.
Both teams probably waiting for the FA market to play out so they can trade from their positions of depth.
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11 hours ago, Chuck said:
Why aren't we talking more about signing Hector Neris? 71 appearances, 1.71 ERA, 1.05 WHIP, 77 K's in 68.2 IP for the Astros.
Neris' 28.0% hard hit rate was a career-best and -16.7 percent difference from 2022's career-worst mark. This correlated with an 86.5 mph average exit velocity allowed that was in the top 9% of the league. Neris also had the highest WPA for a non-closer at 3.82, which was tied for 5th overall among qualified relievers.
Thoughts?
Neris is looking to break the bank I don’t think he’s a good target. More so after the Moore signing but wouldn’t think he was ever a real consideration
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Re: Victor saying “if you’re in at $500M aren’t you just in?” I wonder how willing the Ohtani camp would have been to entertain deferred payments from Arte, considering they tied the opt-out clauses with changes certain LAD organizational changes. It’s a very different situation with Arte and his heirs who don’t have interest in taking over than it appears to be with the Guggenheims.
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3 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:
I'd like nothing better.
So if he has an extended period of health and still sucks what will you think?
If he has an extended run of health and doesn’t produce I’m sure I’ll conclude he’s starting to lose (or if it’s bad enough even lost) some of his natural abilities
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51 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:
I'm sorry yes 3 years, my mistake.
If Rendon played well when healthy I'd agree with you. Again, somehow we just need Trout to be healthy. I'm very confident if Trout is healthy he will produce. I don't think if Rendon is healthy that will likely translate to on field success.
I guess we will all just wait and see.
I think this thread is out of control with Angels doing squat and nothing to talk about.
While I didn't think we'd keep Ohtani, I thought we'd reinvest in guys like Sonny Gray or Hicks and we are now a collective frustrated fan base.
Rendon has not had an extended opportunity to get into a groove before encountering his next injury. It’s been a tragic run since 2021. But you’ve got to be fair and understand that a baseball player does not simply immediately return to his former self after hip and wrist surgeries. I’ll point to preseason 2023, when he appeared to be at full health, even though most of you will probably laugh at me.
15 G41 PA
.500/.561/.806
If only he could have an extended period of health to quiet some of you loudmouths.
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4 hours ago, Warfarin said:
With Ohtani gone now, and given the declarations of the FO that they intend to compete and not rebuild - what moves do you make from here to cobble together a decent team?
https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resource/payroll/angels
Looking at the above, if you assume Arte will spend close to the threshold (no guarantees of that), that would mean we have ~65mil or so to spend in AAV this offseason, which is more than enough to secure a top SP, a top reliever, and some hitters to help mitigate the loss of Ohtani.
Sign Blake Snell 7/$196M ($28)
Sign Jordan Hicks 4/$40M ($10)
Sign Matt Moore 2/$18M ($9)
Trade Patrick Sandoval+ ($5M) for Tyler Glasnow ($25M) or Corbin Burnes ($15M) ($10-$20)
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7 hours ago, Stradling said:
My thoughts on where they are for next year is they will run it back, with free agent acquisitions. We just have to hope for a few things. One, that Perry chooses wisely how he spends the huge amounts of money he will have available to spend. We have to hope for health of Trout and Rendon, which even if this team played well this year, we would have to hope for the health of those two. The last thing we need is for the young guys to take a step forward. If you have a strong bullpen you can win a lot of games. So if Bachman, Joyce, Soriano, and possibly C-Rod lock down the bullpen, the team has a chance. We also need Sandoval and Detmers to pitch like they did in 2022 and not like they pitched this year. Sure there are a lot of question marks but it isn’t out of the realm of possibility that the young guys the team has puts it together.
1b: Schanuel/Drury
2b: Drury/Paris/Rengifo
SS: Neto/Rengifo
3rd: Rendon/Drury/Rengifo
Catcher: O’Hoppe/Stassi/Thaiss
LF: Ward
CF: Trout
RF: Moniak/Adell
4th OF: Free Agent?
SP: Sandoval/Detmers/Canning/Anderson/Silseth/Free Agent/Free Agent
RP: Joyce/Bachman/Soriano/CRod/Estevez/Suarez maybe/Free Agent
That is probably where we are at and we know there will be money spent on pitching and probably one infielder and one or two outfielders. That team I lined out has only about 4-5 guys over 30 and the rest being 26 or younger? Without actually checking Trout, Stassi, Anderson, Drury, Rendon are over 30 next year? Ward I think is turning 30. Then the rest are 26 or younger.
I will take this roster over most that we have put out there in the last decade because we have 3 very young everyday players that can be the core of the next generation of Angels baseball, and we have some talent on the pitching staff that is young and one you don’t have to squint to see their talent.
It’s a pretty solid core if some health and luck could finally fall our way. Biggest void is top end SP. If Perry could pull off some early offseason signings; say two of Snell, Flaherty, Urias, Gilolito, Lorenzen, then get Moose to come back and finally bring back Moore and Lopez for the pen.. might Shohei feel like staying for a year or two while he recovers from TJ? If Ohtani moves on I’d pivot to Bellinger so Trout & Rendon can share some of the DH duties.
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Very nice 3 game stretch for Jared Walsh I think our concerns can be safely put to bed.
Double Thursday night in Texas
108.2 EV
.930 xBAPinch Hit HR yesterday
106.2 EV
.850 xBAHis seeming inability to hit the ball hard was the major concern imo. I’m good now.. give him most of the first base PAs vs RHP
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2 hours ago, Jeff Fletcher said:
The Brewers are in first place.
I assume they learned their lesson from the Hader fiasco.
Good point. They might not move on from Burnes until the offseason to avoid another PR nightmare, as long as they’re in the division lead
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I would be willing to move Sandoval and Quero for Burnes especially with Burnes being a local guy.. solid chance he’d be willing to extend
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On 6/15/2023 at 10:18 AM, totdprods said:
No trade for Goldschmidt would tear apart the future, nor would he just be a salary dump - he won the MVP last year, his contract is reasonable, and he’s still quite good - would be second on this team in WAR and OPS+, only behind Sho.
I imagine the Cards would have a lot of interest in Quero, given the way Contreras has been handled, but they don’t need that to be imminent. Sure, it would be great if the Angels had O’Hoppe and Quero as the future tandem, but there’s still risk with Quero and rarely do teams equitably split time with two catchers. It’s gonna be O’Hoppe a lionsshare of the time, and someone like Thaiss or even Wallach will be a capable secondary guy for ‘24-‘25. Do I want to part with Quero? No way, but he may be a centerpiece that makes sense for both clubs without the Halos having to lose too much else - it would be great to hold on to as many arms as possible still, and building around Quero could help keep names like Silseth, Bush, Bachman from ever being mentioned. Adell, Detmers (who I really wouldn’t want to move at all), and Bachman all have some geographical ties to nearby…Neto’s ascension makes it much easier to part with one of our infield prospects now too. Adams is probably buried behind Adell and Moniak and seems like the type of OF that St. Louis would like.
There is probably both a Quality offer the Angels could make, or a Quantity offer, and neither would be cheap, but neither would break the future. The potential inclusion of an arm could add to either.
Lastly, I have to think Houston is really watching this. They’re in the race due to the strength of their pitching, but that depth is getting stretched really thin and could come apart. Alvarez is out for a month, and Abreu looks *cooked*. Goldschmidt is a Houston boy. He’d immediately give them a boost with Yordan out and maybe Abreu covering DH helps him get back on track. This is a good preventative move for the Angels to not just make themselves better, but to also keep the Astros on the edge this year and next, which could be good for retaining Shohei.
Good points made here. The Cards are well stocked with young position player depth, but could use a Catcher like Quero in their system and they badly need starting pitching. Would think Quero plus a guy like Ky Bush or Jack Kochanowicz could get the conversation started. A move like this would be akin to going all in for a Shohei extension assuming Arte is willing to pay up accordingly
also gotta add that I cannot find anywhere that Goldy has a NTC…
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Went with Suarez but the bullpen is a very close runner up. Loved what we saw from each of those guys but Devenski and Estevez were especially awesome
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57 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:
Fletcher over Rengifo tonight?
Sandoval induces ground balls at a very high rate. Good idea to have Fletcher backing him up most of the time. He’s gotta play sometime may as we’ll be then
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On 3/16/2023 at 4:55 PM, Pancake Bear said:
Which is actually my point. I don't think the Angels signed him with the expectation that he was going to suddenly become a great or even competent hitter. I think they signed him because of clubhouse presence (people underrate it, but it does matter), defense, and speed. All other options are mostly superfluous or inferior in whatever they bring to the table. We don't need Velazquez's defense when Fletcher basically matched him (by rate) defensively at shortstop in 2022. We don't need Adell or Moniak when it would be a) detrimental to their development to sit on the bench, and b) not an improvement over just throwing one of the two infielders who would otherwise be sitting out into the outfield for a game when one of the OF needs a day off. There's no reason to carry three catchers (Sam Blum's bizarre suggestion).
As a role player, Phillips brings multiple things to the table and his weak hitting isn't as much a negative on this time when we don't really have any other everyday bench players with no bat. Two regular, everyday infielders/outfielders will be on the bench every day. So, if we need a pinch hitter for the catcher, or want to pinch hit a righty for Walsh (or vice versa), we already have those guys available. We don't need him to be a bat. If his new approach eventually shows up, great, but that would be an extra benefit, not something we need or are counting on.
I pretty much agree with all of this. It’s feasible he could be a role payer that sees less than 20 meaningful PAs all season and still provides value with his baserunning and defense.
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6 hours ago, Angels 1961 said:
Davidson has had a nice ST but those stats in spring are meaningless. ERA of over 6.5 last year.
Gotta understand there’s a difference between evaluating a player’s performance in Spring vs leaning on Spring stats to make roster decisions. Davidson has added a new pitch which has dynamically increased his effectiveness.
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4 hours ago, Pancake Bear said:
You're right. Davidson's ST are meaningless, because we can see who he was last year. Just like Phillips' ST are meaningless because we can see who he was last year, which is why there is no chance of him being cut or sent down.
Hey, I don't make the rules. I'm just following yours.
In all fairness, Phillips’ dismal 2022 resulted in the Rays cutting him. Baltimore only saw fit to get him into 8 games after signing him to a minor league deal.
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10 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:
Sorry, but Sandoval and Detmers will be better than Anderson.
That said, he’s the best #4 starter the Halos will have in years.
Agree with this. I’d say Sandoval & Detmers have a good shot at posting 4+ WAR seasons, while hoping Anderson can settle in around 3.0. Suarez has to be the favorite for SP5, but I wouldn’t rule out a Davidson leapfrog, simply because Suarez has already shown to be so effective out of the pen. Give him 15 starts and 20 relief appearances? Contingent upon Davidson sustaining his stellar spring of course.
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2 hours ago, Trendon said:
I don't know what the Angels internal projection system does or doesn't use, as it's obviously proprietary.
My point is that, even if they weigh ST stats the same as regular season stats, ST stats are a much smaller sample
Understood. But there are certain instances where this approach can’t really be applied and those are the positions that are still “up for grabs” (Catcher, shortstop, and first base) to varying degrees
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5 hours ago, Trendon said:
Every team uses an internal projection system, and those systems utilize players’ stats from previous seasons.
Those sample sizes over the course of major and minor league seasons are more instructive than the small sample size of one Spring Training where a player gets no more than 50-60 plate appearances.
Player stats from previous seasons.. like Walsh’s 1 month in 2020 when he had a 14% K rate? Or his volatile 2021? Or his injured 2022 stats? How to know which sample to rely upon if not closely evaluating his performance this ST. How about Stassi? Relying on his great 2020-21 stats or his abysmal 2022? Thaiss as he acclimates to the most difficult position on the field? His AAA stats from 2022 are to be relied upon? Or his MLB stats when he wasn’t a catcher?
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10 hours ago, Trendon said:
Outside of unforeseen injuries creating unforeseen needs, I think Spring Training “competitions” are over blown.
Teams are gonna ignore years of data because of a month’s worth of sample size against varying competition? I doubt it.
Tell me more about how “years of data” helps make it clear who will be more effective in 2023 between Thaiss, Stassi and O’Hoppe? Or Walsh vs Lamb?
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10 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:
I’m not sure we’re appreciating how much Brett Phillips ABs typically end in outs, oftentimes of the K variety. Even in his terrific 2021 season he batted .206 with a 37.8% K%. Still came away with a 103 wRC+ / 2.3 fWAR over 292 PAs in 119 games. 11 Ks with only 1 hit in 19 PAs is nothing for this guy.
Plenty of time for him to get comfortable with his new swing. While the team is healthy there’s no need to have him take any high leverage ABs whatsoever..Walsh & Rengifo can step in for occasional spot starts in LF when one of Trout/Ward/Renfroe needs a day off. Phillips only enters as a late game pinch runner or defensive replacement getting the occasional late game PA in blowouts.
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