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@Tank, I have a feeling we're not going to be watching Angels games on TV....

Post the account number, expiration date and security code on here and we'll show you.

Been there. Done that.

I assume you're half serious... I have no idea how to re-route my internet...

How does VPN help you watch Angels games if you live in the area? I have an MLB subscription and Angels games are blacked out for me.

Yes, they do. I know someone who was in that role for the Dodgers for many years.

He even spoke regularly to former Angels pitching coach Doug White.

Maybe they should switch to Mastercard or American Express.

It was May 27. My wife and I had bought tickets to see the Padres and the Cardinals. We wanted to see David Eckstein (Scott Speizio was also on the team) When the news broke that Weaver was making his MLB debut, we adjusted our plans. We still went to the Padtes/Cardinals game (it was a day game), but we left a little early to make sure we got to see Weaver's debut. It was a great day of baseball. My wife is awesome, BTW.

Heaney is making his own sodas now? That should help.

@Angelsjunky can I get back to making stupid jokes, posting gifs and memes now?

While I don't engage in conversations about statistics for the most part, I appreciate the perspective good data analytics brings to the table. I'm just not the guy who's going to do that analysis - at least not in any depth. When I think of Weaver, I don't think of his numbers. However, seeing his 233 K's in 2010 or his numbers in his 2011 season helps me appreciate what I saw with my eyes even more. His 2012 season was pretty nice too. I knew he was pretty good during that 3 year stretch - seeing his numbers helps me put that in perspective.

I would agree with that.

Again, my fandom is different from yours... not that's there's anything wrong with that. I'll add this... Two guys are in a bar arguing about who is better - Mookie Betts or Mike Trout. They're talking about statistics, etc. I'm never going to be one of those guys. I'm one of the guys in the other part of the bar, telling stories about what I saw Trout or Betts do on the field. I don't have this need to argue who is better. I would rather appreciate them for the things I saw them do on the field. That's how I view baseball as a fan. I'm not knocking those who spend a lot of time analyzing the game. I don't care about projections or rankings or any of that stuff very much. I know a lot of baseball fans do. That's cool. It's just not me. That also doesn't mean I don't appreciate the numbers side of the game. I do. That's why I enjoy reading IP's stuff and some others on this site. But at the end of the day, it's not why I watch or talk about baseball.

Baseball has never been about the numbers for me. It's always been about the memories created. That's not likely to ever change for me. That's my approach to baseball as a fan. Looking back at Weaver's and Lackey's stats does nothing for me. It's all about the memories. That's always going to be subjective. It has nothing to do with being "lazy." My fandom is different from yours. I don't get excited every time Trout's WAR goes up. I get excited when I watch him play. So... again, I can't compare Lackey and Weaver objectively. It's not how I'm wired.

It's impossible for me to answer this objectively. Although it's hard to go against the guy who helped the Angels win the biggest game in franchise history, I have to go with the Dirtbag, Jered Weaver. My attitude about Lackey has mellowed some over the years, but when he signed with the Red Sox, it was like a punch in the stomach. Couple that with the things he said on his way out of Anaheim and that's why I hated the guy for a while. He was also a scumbag for leaving his wife while she was fighting breast cancer. He was a great competitor, but an a-hole too. I loved him when he was our a-hole and no so much afterwards. I have no idea who was statistically better, but Jered Weaver will always be my favorite Angels pitcher, with Chuck Finley a close second. I have lots of great memories watching Weave pitch and I always wanted to be at the stadium, every time he took the mound. When he was at the top of his game, he was so much fun to watch. I thought the stadium should have been packed every time he was on the mound. I loved the way he pitched and we all know about his fire. I'll never forget the joy he showed when he pitched the no-hitter. The look on his face was priceless. I remember going to an Angels fan fest way back when and when Weave walked into the tent for an autograph session, he had mirrored sunglasses on and his long blonde hair was combed back. When he sat down, he flashed a big smile as if to say, "let's do this" and it was like he was a rock star. In that moment, he reminded me of David Lee Roth. It cracked me up. He was just having a good time. He was always pretty good with the fans too. Weave also had this side of him that just endeared him to fans... the "how much do you really need" statement cemented his place in Angels history as a fan favorite. It was hard watching him at the end of his career and I hated the fact that he ended it as a Padre. Never-the-less, I would love to see him involved with the Angels in some capacity again. Like I said, I can't do this objectively. I'll take Weaver over Lackey any time.

The box score: https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ANA/ANA200609090.shtml As a member of the Blue Jays... Bengie Molina (1, 2nd base off Kelvim Escobar/Jose Molina)

Lyman Bostock Aaron Cox Ex-Angels who died tragically... Tommy Hanson Aurelio Rodriguez

Fred Lynn is another.

I saw him steal a base against his brother Jose!

Upton’s turf toe!