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Next years mantra - "Skaggs and Shoe and three days of blues"

Yes, know Jahmai is tearing up Pioneer League but he was removed after 1st at bat last night. Was he injured?

Why was Jahmai Jones taken out after 1AB last night?

Convert Cowart into a pitcher (didn't he have a 90mph fastball in high school?) if the Angels don't plan on using his talents at 3B?

This is very encouraging and along with how Thaiss and Jones are hitting, bodes well for the Angels if they reach the majors in 2019.

Let Lincecum have three or four more starts to see if he can get straighten out and if he does, then he'd be a nice addition to 2017 rotation especially if Richards doesn't mend. If he doesn't, cut him and bring Skaggs up. 2017 = Skaggs, Trop, Shoe, Santiago and Lincecum. That would be ok

Trout stays healthy and wins MVP Cowart and Bandy get their chance and do well Shoe, Trop, Santiago and Skaggs pitch well giving the Angels hope for 2017. Richards actually doesn't need Tommy John and comes back giving the Angels more hope for 2017 Thaiss and Jones continue to put up awesome numbers giving the Angels farm system some hope Arte falls off his yacht and new owner hires Bud Black Weaver finishes off the season at home pitching a complete game shut out denying the Astros a playoff spot and fans give him an hour standing ovation thanking him for all the great years of being their Ace. (reloads pipe, takes more puffs) ....don't Bogart that....aw yes...the remedy to a long season

Watching the Richmond Squirrels (SF's AA team) I agree. Compare that the Angels drafted Taylor Ward with 24th pick in first round of 2015 and passed on 1B Chris Shaw (31st pick by Giants and now a top 75 prospect and at AA a year out of college for the Giants). Shaw signed for $1.4 and Ward for $1.65 so it wasn't a money issue. Shaw may duplicate Cron (1B only with power - except he's bats left and is far more athletic) but will Ward pan out??? Or is he another Hank Conger / Jeff Mathis?

is 76 games...till they get to draft a top five talent like Bumgarner, Posey, Harvey, Sale, Lindor or Rendon and start to replenish the farm system!

Arroyo is an elite bat...he's 3.5 years younger than the AA average age and 2.5 years younger than any Angel at AA (Caleb Adams) so yes his average should be a little lower at this stage of his development. He hit .304/.344/..459/.803 at A+ last year and .333 at A the year before. He's gained 30 pounds of muscle and is now 6'-2" 215lbs. But reading stats doesn't tell the whole picture. He makes solid contact with each at bat - a line drive machine and has very advanced plate awareness. He has good speed...not great - but good and he hustles his butt off on every play whether fielding or running. Won't be surprised if he's their 3B or LF sometime next year or in 2018 considering Panik and Crawford are at SS and 2B. Again, the Giants won't trade him...that's why they have a home grown infield. They draft smart and develop/keep their top prospects. We can debate Parker all day. Yes, he does have power but do the Angels need another HR hitter? Trout, Pujols and Cron supply the power and they're not going anywhere - especially Trout and Pujols and with Cron hitting better he won't be either. Parker strikes out around 28-30% of the time. Angel fans rail about Cron and he only K's about 16% this year and in the minors was around 13-15%. A LF who grind out AB's and gets on base would be preferable. Parkers AAA stats - in the same league as the Bees - this year align with Nick Buss and Cal Towey's with Parker having a bit higher OPS and SLG because of HR's.

This guy... There’s a lot to like here: low-to-mid-90s fastball that hits 97, plus slider, solid curve and change-up, and greatly improved command . He’s got the Jake deGrom thing going with the long hair look and similar height, though stuff isn’t quite as electric as deGrom's. It is still plenty strong however, his command has turned into a real asset, and he has a reputation for pitching well under pressure. He should be ready for a trial in 2016 and could become a number three starter, maybe even more. Grade B+. Oh crud...the Angels traded him for a RP who pitched 30 innings and flopped....

Angels trade LHP Hector Santiago, 3B Yunel Escobar, and C Geovany Soto to the Giants in exchange for AA 2B Christian Arroyo, AA LHP Andrew Suarez, and AA RHR Ray Black - Angels absorb Santiago’s, Escobar’s, and Soto’s remaining $2.5MM, $2.7MM, and $1.4MM 2016 salaries - Arroyo, the Giants #1 prospect, could best be described as the ‘Kole Calhoun’ of middle infielders meaning he does everything above average but nothing spectacularly well - Suarez is a solid left-handed starter with good control and mid rotation upside - Black is a flame throwing right-handed reliever with elite closer written all over him The Giants will NEVER trade Christian Arroyo...he's not average but an elite bat with developing defensive skills at 2B and 3B (no longer at SS). I live in Richmond, Va. (home of Giants AA team) and have watched his development this year. Dream on if you'd think they'd trade him for both Santiago and Escobar. And I don't get why anyone wants Jarred Parker....he's failed time and again to get a foot hold at the major league level...if you think Cron looks lost at the plate and K's a lot...just trade for Parker. Santiago has to be kept or the Angels have ZERO pitching to replace him.

Shoe, Tropeano , Skaggs and Nate Smith = 2017 rotation depth So why would the Angels trade Santiago when that is the entire depth of the 2017 rotation??? They'll need to add three or four to that group just to get through 2017. List of 2017 Free Agent Pitchers - not many that are good and ones like Matt More, Jeremy Hellickson...etc. will be possibly be traded at the deadline and not available. Starting Pitchers Brett Anderson (29) Clay Buchholz (32) — $13.5MM club option with a $500K buyout Andrew Cashner (30) Jhoulys Chacin (29) Bartolo Colon (43) Jorge De La Rosa (36) R.A. Dickey (42) Doug Fister (33) Jaime Garcia (30) — $12MM club option with a $500K buyout Gio Gonzalez (31) — $12MM club option with a $500K buyout Jason Hammel (34) — $10MM club option with a $2MM buyout Jeremy Hellickson (30) Rich Hill (37) Derek Holland (30) — $11MM club option with a $1MM buyout Scott Kazmir (33) — can opt out of remaining two years, $32MM on current contract Mat Latos (29) Colby Lewis (37) Kris Medlen (31) — $10MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout Matt Moore (28) — $7MM club option with a $2.5MM buyout Charlie Morton (33) — $9.5MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout Jon Niese (30) — $10MM club option with a $500K buyout Ivan Nova (30) Jake Peavy (36) CC Sabathia (36) — $25MM vesting option with a $5MM buyout James Shields (35) — can opt out of remaining two years, $44MM on current contract Alfredo Simon (36) Edinson Volquez (33)

Tyler Skaggs when he's ready - replaces Lincecum

If the Angels aren't rebuilding, as Eppler says they aren't, no one is tradable. Who replaces any player traded since the Angels aren't rebuilding?

Yeah but they're very gullible when trading for prospects so it might work.

Richards, the club’s 28-year-old ace, was considered “asymptomatic,” Eppler added, and he is scheduled to be reevaluated in six weeks. HUH??? Asymptomatic???? Asymptomatic means the person has recovered from a condition and no longer has symptoms. So Richards shows no sign of a torn ligament???? Sounds like voodoo magic or B.S.

Unless a team is willing to give up their top prospect(s) for Shoe no thanks. Only team that would do that is the Angels...maybe the Angels could trade Shoe to themselves?

AGREED...with only a few legit players, a horrible pen and assemblage of injured or soft throwing or inconsistent starters = terrible team. But look on the bright side - maybe a top 5 draft pick next year!

With it looking more likely that Haney and Richards will be out for the remainder of this year (and being realistic - questionable for next year) and no top of the rotation pitchers on the staff this year (Chacin? Lincecum? Santiago? Skaggs?) or in the minors (Nate Smith?) to step in/up this year or next why trade the only decent pitcher the Angels have? Potential 2017 rotation only has Shoe, Santiago and possibly Skaggs at this time...so can't imagine taking Shoe away. Plus he only makes $530,000 and is only just up for arbitration for the first time after this season.

"Please be advised that the Commissioner’s Office and the Players Association have agreed to amend the Major League Rules in advance of this year’s Rule 4 Draft with respect to players-to-be-named-later (“PTBNLs”) under Rule 12(e)(2), and the trading of draft picks under Rule 3(b)(6). …commencing with players eligible for the 2015 Rule 4 Draft, (a) players selected in the Draft may be traded beginning on the day following the conclusion of the World Series, and (b) drafted players cannot be PTBNLs unless they otherwise could be traded pursuant to Rule 3(b)(6), as amended, at the time of the trade." Angels can't trade Thaiss or Williams till after the WS. So much for trading for Myers.

Taken 13th overall by the Padres, Turner would, Baseball America's Matt Eddy explained, remain in San Diego's system, because he couldn't, "... be traded until one year after his signing date of June 13," under MLB's rules. Weirdly, Turner played the 2014 and 58 games of the 2015 season in the Padres minor league system because he couldn't be traded until a year after being drafted.

Considering the change in rules which allows trading 2016 draft picks, offer a package of Cron and Nonie Williams or Matt Thaiss?

Kennesaw St is an hour from Marsh's home in Buford, Ga. so he's probably quite familiar with their baseball program.

Kansas (KS) Angel !! Know Kennesaw St. because I follow college baseball and also played NAIA level basketball in Kansas.