Angels in 2030

There are actually people still taking the owners side? I tend to lean pro-owner reflexively, but there’s no legit argument in favor of the owners in this case for anyone actually aware of the facts. 

I'm so confused -- I was so ready to unleash some internet anger on Arte....and then IP spoils that whole process.  Now i don't know who to complain about.  What good is the internet and AngelsWin if i can't complain with my keyboard behind my monitor.  It's exhausting just thinking about which side to complain about -- Cheap Arte or the dumb/lazy media.  When will my suffering end?!?!

I find it odd too why the general public rails against rich athletes getting paid so much to play a game.  Meanwhile there's almost no talk of Tom Cruise, Will Smith, RD Jr., etc.  making tens of millions in movies and we have to pay so much at the theaters.  Or musicians making tens of millions for concerts (without any new music whatsoever and usually drunk/etc. playing on stage) and yet we pay $100's for tickets.  Athletes, imho, have more talent and put more work in then either of these two sectors.  Some of these are complete talent-less messes (btw, i'm actually friends with a few of these TL RMFers).  It's just funny to me why athletes get this crap from average Joe but not the other entertainment sectors like the rock star, actor, etc.
Then there's some CEOs that get crazy millions and do crap to the company...but that's another story (& that one actually is complained about more).

I'm so confused -- I was so ready to unleash some internet anger on Arte....and then IP spoils that whole process.  Now i don't know who to complain about.  What good is the internet and AngelsWin if i can't complain with my keyboard behind my monitor.  It's exhausting just thinking about which side to complain about -- Cheap Arte or the dumb/lazy media.  When will my suffering end?!?!

I usually get annoyed at the players in labor talks and money.  But i gotta admit, i think the owners are putting the squeeze on players here....knowing that they can and ignore the LT health of MLB.  The owners have tons of money coming in, incredible appreciation of their assets, etc.  I have a masters in Acctg/tax -- i understand the bogus nature of accounting numbers all too familiar. MLB is setup for misleading annual accounting GAAP financial statement figures.
 
Regardless, those numbers thrown around for players to take this year seem way low.  sure the season is less and they should get less since they are playing less games.  That's obvious.  But they should get full playoff figures.  Also, sure there is less income due to little-to-no fans at games (if that happens).  But you're missing out on the fact that their might be bigger media/advertising from much more people watching on TV.  There's also way less daily expenses for owners if there is no fans at games, potentially less travel costs too, etc.  
 
But even beyond that, owners need to take some hit due to this situation for the betterment of MLB long-term.  I think they are thinking long-term, but in a different sense -- they are thinking about labor relations and future deals.  Whereas they should be thinking LT from a fan standpoint and bringing in more/younger fans.  Instead they are going to alienate fans and continue to push them elsewhere.
Final point, i do find it a bit odd that a business would make employees take a discount on agreed to terms in this financial situation.  Many companies are struggling (or at least less profitable) -- mine included.  But am I and the rest of the company staff being asked to decrease my salary?  Heck no.  But i guess it's apples-oranges comparison since sports leagues have more of a partner relationship.  So i understand that.  Still, it really does seem like the owners are trying to push everything down on the players this time. 

Astros investigation

 
Red Sox Investigation

I appreciate thinking outside the box. But It's a stupid idea.  Let's face it, they are not wanting to get back to playing so we fans can watch and be entertained with baseball.  It's all about money....especially to the owners.  The more you go into the details and think about administratively doing this for the LT, it's not an option.
The only option is if this were short-term for a few weeks in an effort to get more games while they get things ready to play at their own stadiums for the majority of the season.  Either way, it'll be without fans.  But the AZ/FL can only be done for a very short period.  Anyone thinking otherwise is purely wishful thinking.  Bank on it

Oh i agree -- you should always go for the best player over specific needs.  Especially with such young guys that are in the int'l group.  At that age, spending big on Ps too risky.  Plenty of big time int'l Ps that went for small amounts....and plenty high costs busts.  So i personally agree with that approach on the int'l front.  It's just funny when combined with our annual drafts and the FA.   Having said all that, i am desperately hoping we go SP with our #1 pick in the upcoming draft (but first & foremost is best player).

Oh i agree -- you should always go for the best player over specific needs.  Especially with such young guys that are in the int'l group.  At that age, spending big on Ps too risky.  Plenty of big time int'l Ps that went for small amounts....and plenty high costs busts.  So i personally agree with that approach on the int'l front.  It's just funny when combined with our annual drafts and the FA.   Having said all that, i am desperately hoping we go SP with our #1 pick in the upcoming draft (but first & foremost is best player).