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An organization committed to winning would plan on Richards being no more than a #3. If you plan a roster relying on Richards as a 1 or a 2 at this point, you are begging for failure. If you have a legit 1 and 2, then IF (big if) Richards gets dialed in you have something that could do some damage. This team needs top end starting pitching to have any chance. No quantity of Tropeanos makes a dangerous postseason team.

I got no time to fight any more. Back in the day though. . .

Is Vernon Wells available?

My comment wasn't to rip Reggie personally. He was a blue collar player surviving and I admire that. The comment was sarcastic in terms of "here we go on filling holes with low/no impact players". . . 2017 has been a joke. I'm fine punting a season, but then PUNT! This team has got to move any and every body that doesn't look like a critical piece of a deep playoff run roster. Yard sale.

There is no reason NO REASON to be idle at the trade deadline. At this point I could not care less about losing 100 games. I want to see progress in building a real team.

I heard Reggie Willits has begun a stretching program.

Team Batting .240/.316/.380 Considering what that would look like without Trout. . . Almost unwatchable.

Hate to be technical but the "ultimate" respect is doing it, not thinking of doing it.

Getting?

Fishing around in a mess of shells trying to get lucky and find a clean peanut somebody missed? = scouring the scrap heap for a player that if just dusted off might produce?

I know the season is still new enough to get him turned around but man I am let down by Maybins. All I wanted was to NOT have a hole in the lineup. Is the team just cursed until the Hamilton contract is gone?

I apologize if the phrase is mainstream and I am a dope for not knowing it, but I don't know what a clean peanut is. I can guess but I would rather just ask.

Agreed. I don't "need" to know what they get paid. I don't mind knowing and certainly it is interesting, but most people generally don't know and generally don't care what other entertainers make.

Bottom line is as a fan I would be beyond stoked for the Angels to have Harper. And for the most part, 95% OF the time, I really don't care how much money players make.

Everybody's defensive knee jerk reaction on Harper is he isn't as good as Trout. The reality is there are only a few free agents where a team honestly believes the best years may be to come rather than behind. Harper doesn't have to be anywhere close to Trout to command a ridiculous contract. He is a "star" that draws an audience and he might be the best bet among all players to pop 60 homers a year in his age 28-32 years. Somebody is going to pay him big even if he only continues to tease. What does Jayson Hayward make again?

So yes to pitching in August. Got it. How about pitching in September? 50/50?

I gotta just breathe it out. Patience.

I can't see how getting Tropeano back is supposed to excite me. Sure I will take a healthy Trop and see how he can help out a better rostrr but I have never viewed him as a difference maker where it really counts. He is depth on a contender, he doesn't make you a contender.

I know it will take time. I am just suffering from this dead period. I can't follow the team blindly like I did 30 years ago. I need a nugget of hope. And in this "it takes time" zone we are in, I am so paranoid they will prioritize the wrong things. I want to one day see a roster built to win a whole slew of games 4-3 and 3-2.

My sister has been divorced four times. If I observe that something is likely wrong with what she is doing will you snap at me with "Tell me who she was supposed to marry! Who? How?" Either you get the contained point or you don't.

I love an actual exchange like this where there is no gotcha. I take no issue with your analysis, but it just seems like that plan would have the Angels rotation very delicate, vulnerable and trying to get lucky to some degree. Those pieces individually seems properly examined. I would say what is missing in that plan is a 200 inning 3.50 era stud. How you get that is entirely a different discussion admittedly. I just think they need it.

Yes. That was the best case plan and it was maybe passable if Richards was all the way back and Heaney was healthy and progressing as a go-to. It's just demoralizing to see where the team is now compared to that "passable" plan. The twist in the gut is there is no intellectual way to rely on Richards or Heaney going forward. There are two huge vacancies at the top of this rotation and nobody in the minors that really looks like the solution to those vacancies. It a tough situation to be in.

Agreed. Believe me I understand budgetary issues, but I am hoping to see some evidence of trying to add someone to the front of the rotation rather than stockpiling depth at the back. That would include either a free agent when the money is available or if not that, then chasing a high end projectable dude with future ace potential and not someone with the ceiling of mid rotation or "solid depth". Seems like a fair place here to openly mention this is just my personal priority to end up with a roster capable of you g deep in a run. I think you can win a world series with a bad 3rd baseman or a bad right fielder. I don't think you have very good odds unless you have two stud arms in the rotation.

Yes I expect to go to the World Series or deep into the playoffs year after year. Yeah that's what I have been saying here. You got me. Back to the actual subject now or is it going to be an endless cute banter of arguing what you are trying to hear? Let me help you then. I expect the Angels to have top 3 Cy Young vote getters every single year and never lose a playoff game and also have $5 box seats and free beer.

I hate "competitive" . . .to me for a premium franchise it is code word for floundering. And its patronizing to the fans.