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So you were spending a few years getting ready for your career. Minor leaguers are doing the same thing.

Correct. That’s why the issue of slavery for clear thinking people is about lack of freedom and abuse, not that they lacked shelter and food. Remember this all began with the outrage that minor leaguers slept on twin mattresses, had roommates, and ate Taco Bell. Those are stupid complaints.

They do. Remember when they got drafted and they negotiated how much they would accept to sign and become a minor leaguer?

The delusion that these guys are victims and suffering continues. . . Minor league baseball players spend basically all day at the ballpark. This is exactly why they have no need for anything more than sharing an apartment with other minor leaguers. And again all the people upset over their income/living situation I guess are going to keep deliberately ignoring that lots of these guys got signing bonuses that they could choose to spend on better housing. Most choose to save that money and choose the roommate situation. That is their decision and my opinion is it is a good decision so they can save more for the future.

I just think it is a little funny that baseball history is pretty full of examples of players basically defensively “retiring to 1B” but the idea of Justin Upton doing that late in his career is laughed at, as if this is some wild concept that has never happened before. Heck it’s not a terrible bet that Mike Trout ends up playing 1B.

You don’t get the basic point. If Adell’s offense was worthy of being in a lineup and he was brutal in the outfield, a team would probably end up playing him at 1B. Upton isn’t a great OF, and the Angels had some young OF looking like they were getting closer to being mlb ready, so the discussion was maybe Upton should move to 1B. Nobody is saying anybody can play RF if they put in the work. Cecil Fielder could play a passable 1B, but not RF. An old Albert Pujols could get by at 1B, not RF. . . Upton could likely play 1B. (obviously the Angels have Walsh now so it makes little sense now to attempt to convert Upton to 1B now)

The guys drafted in respectable spots get handsome signing bonuses making them “rich” compared to 99.9% of other people their age. And the ones drafted late who don’t get big bonuses are long shots to make it. They are not really good investments to give them more than they get. They choose to pursue it anyway, and it’s just kind of peculiar to think they are entitled to more than just having the shot to make it. This whole thing is a fake problem. Nobody is starving or freezing. It isn’t suffering. It is getting by like anybody trying to make their way. Fake problem.

I know. Actors raw dog it on their own instead of being subsidized. If we only have limited resources, let’s villify the studios and help the starving actors.

Thanks. I personally think it makes a nice point, but you do you. We all win.

If they did, the actors and actresses would voluntarily line up by the thousands. It’s a great idea. Lets get these guys $600 a month too.

Somehow that is racist.

You are right. The movie studios pay NOTHING to the aspiring actors and actresses auditioning for years.

I can’t believe that the movie industry allows so many wannabe actors and actresses to suffer the horror of waiting tables and having roommates while they willingly dedicate years auditioning endlessly to hopefully one day be the one-in-a-million rich actor or actress that makes it. The rich movie studios really should do better.

It is now confirmed that the vast majority of the defeated, depressed, mentally deranged, drug addicted homeless people are former minor leaguers with PTSD trauma from sleeping on twin mattresses and eating Taco Bell.

Whether or not Upton will actually play first base or not is not really my point. When there were discussions of how to manage the roster, there were some pretty rational suggestions that Upton put some work in to transition to 1B. Some said it was completely absurd to think that he could play 1B. I could never understand how anyone could think a world class athlete could not put in enough work to be passable at 1B. I suppose there are some that just couldn’t do it, but I would have to believe most guys in good physical shape could probably be OK there. So all I am saying is the people that 100% rejected that Upton could possibly play 1B should probably admit that position was a little extreme.

Can we bump all the posts from about a year ago that condescendingly mocked anyone suggesting that maybe Upton could play some 1B?

I am not worried about him. He will be a good player.

If it doesn’t stink, it’s not really a Marsh.

The Lemon pepper flavor is the only way to go at Wing Stop.

Yes you absolutely have to re-sign everyone you didn’t trade (could have had prospects!!) so that next year’s roster sucks too.

I am not really upset that they didn’t get traded but extending them doesn’t mean they didn’t miss an opportunity to get prospects. They could have signed them as free agents.

If the Angels didn’t sign Rendon we would have Mayfield starting at third. Oh wait we do have Mayfield starting at third. Uh but if the Angels didn’t sign Rendon then they would have more money to sign elite players, so fans could complain about THAT contract instead.

I wish people could stop this delusion of believing that when a team signs someone for 7 or 8 or 10 years that this must mean they expect elite performance from that player for the full term of that contract. That’s just not the reality of it. The reality is the team decides they want to secure as much production as that player can provide, and the final term of the contract is often just a way to spread out the financial obligation to land the player. If people think the Angels expected Pujols to be an elite offensive player through age 42, they are smoking crack. They expected probably 5-6 years of very high level performance with the marketing power of him being a star, and then probably passable performance for a couple more years. Pujols didn’t deliver on the actual performance expectations, but the point remains: teams do not actually expect excellent production for the whole term of these long term deals. Rendon signed a long term deal and it sucks that he has lost some time in his prime to injuries. That really sucks. But all this talk about how these long term deals “don’t age well” is about as insightful as saying 60 month terms on a new car “won’t age well.” A $700 a month payment on a new car feels much more worth it on the first year than it does in the 5th year. Duh. And the person choosing the 60 month term knew that, just as teams know the production at age 38 or 40 will most likely be lousy compared to the first couple of years.

I don’t think he sucked ass. The art of pitching is to know how to not give up the big hit, to minimize damage. MLB hitters are going to score in you. It is a matter of getting the biggest outs and giving up 2 runs instead of 5 or 6. I don’t expect very young pitchers with no mlb experience yet to step in and be able to get those key outs in high impact situations. If you have what it takes you gain that ability quickly. But almost no pitchers have it from day one. I am really encouraged with what Detmers showed.

I fully expected to see people saying to not bring back Trout now, even if he is cleared to play, so that we don’t “risk” it with him. Then, of course, those same people can really pile on how fragile Trout is that he missed the rest of the season from a calf strain.