mtangelsfan

Constitution haters suffer from lack of reading comprehension and are apt to come to illogical conclusions.

Man nate, I don't know what is going on with you.

I forgot to add, "irregardless" is not a word.

I might leave that discussion alone man. I could easily say the opposite regarding you. My point about bullying was that they have zero tolerence policies that are rarely implemented. I should know, my autistic son has suffered from it for years. By the way, I don't see how pushing kids down or knocking them off a jungle gym is protected by the first ammendment.

and you think he should be charged with a felony? Do you honestly believe that a kid who simply forgot something, that is legal by the way, should be charged like that? Crap, the world has gone frickin' crazy.

Crap, what a group of hardasses. He was trying to do the right thing. I made a mistake. Willfully breaking a rule should be dealt with differently than making a mistake and getting caught in the midst of trying to fix the said mistake. Minors smoking=illegal Minors drinking=illegal minors owning guns=legal You guys are leaving no room for grace or a second chance. It's rigid, wooden and graceless.

Most schools have zero tolerence from bullying, but it happens every day anyway. This is crazy and it's not going to send the message you want it to, guaranteed. This kid will now be a martyr and hero.

What price did he pay? See, he was in posession of it illegally because he was a minor. It's not illegal for a minor to own a shotgun. Also, chances are he didn't forget he had the alcohol. It was an error in judgement, not an act of forgetfulness. Was your friend trying to correct the situation when he was caught like this kid was?

You didn't really answer my question. What does zero tolerence even mean? Suspension? Expulsion? Arrest?

Guess what, most guns are "around" minors because many people who have guns have kids. It was locked up and unloaded. Nobody got hurt, nobody got anywhere close to hurt, nobody even thought about getting hurt. Would you feel this way if it was alcohol on campus? That the kid should be arrested and expelled and have his future at risk for a mistake?

Honestly, this is why there will never, ever be a real solution to the gun issue. Neither side can even figure out where the other one is coming from.

an unloaded shotgun? Seriously, you are too bunged up about this. Do you see the results of this? Kids are rallying around him. Good job in sending a "message"

Good thing teens are rarely this way then. I bet if it was a different offense you might feel differently. I have no problem with a couple of day suspension, but he was trying to make it right. What kind of message are you sending? It's not the one you want to send.

I'm pretty sure you are joking, but if you want to know why some folks get so protective of gun rights, this kind of overreaction is part of the reason why. Not to mention the kid that got arrested for wearing an NRA t-shirt to school.

I think the problem arises when you try to define "mentally unstable".

I just think it is silly. Having a picture of the ten commandments, or anything like that isn't truly hurting anyone. They take it away, fine, I still think it is petty to do so.

Fair enough nate. Just want to clarify a couple of things. First, I have never proposed or argued that gay marriage should be illegal. My main argument is state sponsored religious ceremonies. I don't think marriage should be a government run entity. Now my reasoning is certainly following my beliefs, I don't want the government telling my church who they can or cannot marry. Before I get the "that is ridiculous" statement, there is already a wedding cake maker who is being sued for not wanting to make a wedding cake for a gay couple. I don't see how a church who refuses to perform a gay wedding is so much different. Second, I completely disagreed with those idiots who wanted to have a state religion. I understand their frustration for sure, I understand their anger at seeing things being taken away from them.

I really think this is a discussion about semantics. There are several ways one shares their faith. For me, any of those ways is still proselytizing. Sounds like most of you find a distinction in there somewhere. Which is fine.

Strange, most of my Christian friends find me irritatingly liberal. I don't think I have proposed one new law based on biblical principles. I actually consider myself fairly libertarian. I'd be interested to see the posts that made you believe that. I do consider myself more bold with my Christianity are more willing to argue for than most though. Could be zealousness, but more likely is that I just love to debate.

There are several levels in between those options blarg.

Either you are really dense or just lying right now. I'm choosing the second option.

The term "proselytize" is pretty broad. I don't think anyone is talking about a soapbox and megaphone. At it's best, the most effective kind is the person to person conversation about religion, faith or personal beliefs. Of course a smart Christian would stop if asked to do so.

and it has. Problem solved.

LOL, that is one hell of a shade of grey you are talking about. How would differentiate?

I work for a fortune 100 company. There is no policy about people talking to each other about religion. I've worked a lot of jobs, not one of them had a policy like that. I have numerous friends who are Christians who work in all fields and none of them have said they are not allowed to talk to others about their faith. I do agree that a superior should not do that, as a manager I do not share my faith with my employees.