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Man I’m sorry to hear this. The last couple of years were such a fun ride with Shohei. 

Thank you Arte for not investing most of your wealth in Bernie Madoff’s Ponzi scheme allowing you to field an above average payroll year in and year out. 

Better off being on the 3rd base side if you want shade ata a day game. 

Drafting well is probably the most important thing they can do for future success, albeit further out than 2024.

Never resign your own free agents. 
lock em up early on team friendly deals if you can but otherwise goodbye. 

7 hours ago, notherhalo said:

I often wonder what franchises are dumber

Mets!

5 hours ago, AngelStew43 said:

Once he's ready, send him here to the IE for about 10-15 games, to get his timing down, then he should be in game shape by September 1, when the rosters expand by a couple of spots.  

If he hits after September 1, play him.  If not, we still have Moose. 

That’s a darn good,idea. 

If not in person I just stream the radio feed from mlb.tv. 
just not a big fan of watching on TV. 

I’m pretty sure it’s the name change. 

A curse caused by naming the team after Los Angeles does seem plausible. 

43 minutes ago, khouse said:

Honestly...none of us should really be surprised. I mean...think about it...the Angels extend a rookie manager (for stability despite already knowing his inefficiencies & limitations from the year previous) to guide a team desperate to make the playoffs &, in the process, retain a once-in-a-lifetime superstar? I mean, c'mon...years from now.. all we will be able to say is this kind of thinking (or the glaring lack of it) was, sadly & typically, just so Angels...

Phil was the placeholder while Arte sold the team.  

2 hours ago, Swordsman78 said:

If Perry can somehow just off load Rendons contract for Ohtani, that would be a dream scenario

That would be a winner. 
 

When will the angels be ready to compete? Three, four years?

Look for guys a few years off. 

13 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

Signing a bunch of stars to large contracts rarely seems to work out well, unless it is being done in conjunction with a really strong farm system that is also pumping out MLB ready talent.  

The Mets only need to look to their own history to know this, and they have a nifty book that they can even reference:

History is indeed repeating itself.  Eppler was given the money to pursue Cole while he was here, didn't get him, and immediately pivoted to Rendon so he could use Arte's money and sign a star.  Minasian, OTOH, was smart enough to tell Arte he needed far more than just Trea Turner, and spread the money around instead of spending it all on one guy.

That is the difference between a good GM and a poor one, IMO.  But to be fair, maybe Eppler did tell Arte that and he "forced" him to sign Rendon?  No idea.

I’ve got that one on my shelf!!

33 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

I think Eppler is probably pretty bad at his job.  I believe he generally was well-received here for awhile because he was #NotDipoto, but look at the train wreck in New York right now.  By far the biggest payroll this sport has ever seen, and they are massively underperforming.  He signed just about every big name he could, and it has not panned out.

Personally, I think Perry has had to rebuild most of this organization from the ground up.  This is not to say everything Eppler did was bad, as we have some solid performing players from his era, but I think overall, he was probably not particularly good at his job.

Perry has us heading in the right direction.  Likely not in enough time to retain Ohtani, but that is more the fault of his predecessors and ownership than a reflection of him.

This is spot on.  it could be worse than rooting for the angels, you could have two teams and the other is the Mets 

although I do give the Mets credit for going for it. They took a high risk path of signing lots of older stars. It did not work out but they made a maximal effort. 
 

Angels probably need to tear it down to the rafters and start fresh. 

Ha ha KC and Detroit really suck. 

Rengifo was one of the few bright spots last year. Too bad he couldn’t build upon that momentum. 

Time for another bunt!

Good outing for Barria. 

Is moustakis usually a first baseman?

Ugh. Game is Getting away. 

Escobar is going to fix everything!

Ouch. That was rough. 

1 minute ago, PattyD22 said:

If you’re talking to me, thanks.  
 

If you’re not, that’s cool also.

You’re the one!

I felt that way about Tim McCarver. Just give it a rest, dude. 

Great rant!

He’s got a look. Not a good one but one nonetheless.