Swordsman78

Arte will absolutely sign Shohei to a long extension.   Remember that Arte's #1 objective is to sell beers. 

Butts in seats = Beer sales.

Not to mention that Ohtani also is 1 roster spot playing two positions.  This frees up a spot for an extra player.  

The Angels would need to get the other 7 starting AL all star team members to make the deal even Steven.

Very few teams can match Trout and Ohtani (DH), Ohtani (P) as the #1, #2, #3 guys.  The Angels just need to figure out the other 7 positions.   Someone is due to step up, a minor leaguer is due to emerge, a couple of those (20) drafted pitchers have to pay off.   Just don't panic.  We only need a light year on the injury front, and some luck to turn it around.

Also keep Nevin as manager.  He has an "edge" to him that the players will respond to.

16 minutes ago, beatlesrule said:

The bleeding stops at 10-3.

Starting pitchers need to go 7 innings (not a big ask) in order to win games.

Angels finally with strategic "small ball" and it paid off by putting pressure on the defense.

2 minutes ago, Slegnaac said:

Balls and Strikes have a definition which isn't "close proximity to the plate."

Throwing at the head would need a better definition than "close proximity"

Maybe they can try your suggestions during the AFL.

The definition would be  "on pace and direction to hit the batter in the helmet" had not evasive action been taken.  Or something similar.

2 minutes ago, beatlesrule said:

I asked you if the M's hit Mike Trout in their series this year and you stated yes many times and they also broke his hand.

No.  You asked "was he it".   Try not bringing your "c" game to the forum.  Just.one.time.

2 minutes ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

Marsh likes his hair and beard

Good for him.   He can look in the mirror all he wants in Salt Lake City.

5 minutes ago, beatlesrule said:

Huh? The M's hit him and broke his hand over the last 8 games they've played the Angels?

Don't play dumb.  No one ever got suspended for hitting Trout (which was your qualifier).   MLB needs to do more to protect their stars.  Like the NFL does for QB's

3 minutes ago, beatlesrule said:

Was he hit?

Yes.  Many times.  Broke his hand once too.

18 minutes ago, Stradling said:

You have to assume Noah will be pushed deep into the game since we are down 3 relievers. 

IMO the starters should be going deeper more often by now anyway.   And Marsh needs a haircut and a trim.

Of course no repurcussions for Seattle throwing Trout chin music all series.

@Junkballer Care to elaborate or are you just here for the dumbest gif contest.  I can start that thread now if you want.

2 minutes ago, tomsred said:

Regarding #2, how are you planning on getting agreement on what is "close vicinity"?

Same  as calling balls and strikes or pass interference in football.  Umpire decision, protests go to NY

6 minutes ago, Duren, Duren said:

Sports are supposed to be finely balanced between offense and defense. But in all sports their are periods when one or the other side of the equation becomes more dominant. And rule changes come in to try and change the balance. 

1968 was the ultimate year of the pitcher. 1930 was the year of the hitter. The steroid years were the disproportionate power hitting years. The balance is always shifting, sometimes more obviously than other times.

There have been comparatively more changes in rules in recent years than ever before. I don't like them all, but some make sense.

It's also a matter of objectives. Which currently are for more offense via some of those tweaks. And another objective is to get more excitement in the game to draw more fans. Which favors offense over defense. 

I prefer as close a balance between offense and pitching/defense as possible. In other main sports, scoring can come at any time. In Football a turnover can produce a score instantly for a team on defense. Hockey, soccer and basketball have transition strategies that turn defense into offense on the fly.

Baseball ( cricket worldwide too) is the only major North American  sport where no points/runs can be scored when on defense. Which can make for periods of boredom and impatience for those who don't appreciate run prevention. 

The objective of  incrementally changing rules to favor offense betrays the essence of the sport. And eventually make comparing stats from different eras hard to compare.  Some changes to modernize and streamline dynamics, ok. But not radical stuff to seriously alter the core of the competitive system.

 

 

 

 

Football awards a pass interference call at the point of the foul, and at the one yard line if the foul occurs in the end zone.    Used to be only 15 yards and defenses took advantage just like managers take advantage of intentionally walking the marquee hitters.  Totally ruins the game /excitement from a fan perspective.

Baseball is too married to arcane rules (due to sanctity of stats) and will most likely not change and continue to lose fans.

In Football and Basketball all the stars on offense can impact multiple plays in a row.   In baseball you wait 3 innings for the stars to come up to bat.  Then the other team takes the bat out of their hand and walks them.

Suggestions:   If a player walks, a runner goes to first but the manager has the option of keeping the player who walked up for another at bat.   Until he puts a ball into play or strikes out.

Suggestion #2 - Any fastball pitch in the close vicinity of the batters head results in a triple, and the same rule above also applies.

7 minutes ago, budice0 said:

Passan from the top rope...

 

I like the Angels under  Nevin.  They have a pulse and some edge 

That was pathetic.  Not even a foul ball.  #BigBoysCominUp

So much for putting those positive vibes out into the Angel universe.  Sigh.  I'm out.  #exhausting.

Angels win in dramatic walk off fashion in the 9th.  It. must. happen.

I stated anything less than 3 wins in Seattle was unacceptable.   Now we’re rolling again!

Nothing less than 3 wins in Seattle is acceptable

8 hours ago, Angels 1961 said:

Would be ok if Duffy was playing but this is his scheduled day off.

Why are the players prioritizing their "scheduled day off" over winning games?   They.don't.care.

How in the world did Gehrig play 14 seasons without missing a game due to "stomach issues" or "tightness".  He was more muscular than Trout.

This year is toast.  The Angels getting no breaks.   Fluke Red Sox timely hits yesterday.   Today and Monday wasted great pitching.   Just isn't meant to be.   No pop in the line up with everyone who is injured

Someone has to hire the first female MLB manager.  Think of how many boxes they could potentially check off!

Hope the Angels show some grit and play with a sense of urgency.  Recently they remind me of the Mike Marshall (post Belinda) + Greg Brock 1986 Dodgers who sleep walked through games.