Kevin

Meh, Arod when asked on 60 minutes whether he used (I think it was 60 minutes) flat out said no. So I don't think it matters, within reason, how you answer. Either you are telling the truth or not. That won't stop people from picking apart your every move and answer.

Chuck deleted his post?

Chuck's little birdie?

I don't understand how troll daddy hasn't been banned. I'll trade him for Rmunkee.

The problem is terrorism has been a real issue for the twenty years that it can't be taken lightly. However things like the Iraq war make Americans really question the government when it comes to this issue. What are real threats and what is just the government doing to push their own agenda?

So the running list is patio furniture, horse, cat. Good selection so far.

Iron eagle. It's so bad yet you just can't help but wait to see how much more ridiculous it gets.

To be honest pitchers last year were so afraid to pitch to him they decided to just try and pitch around him. What they discovered, he swings at everything. That would be my guess.

The cop should have shot him for acting suspicious

For an aw detective, you sure hate facts and evidence.

In sports, whether one likes it or not, the manager is usually fired when a team isn't doing well. Even if it is his fault or not. Just how it works. 

From what we know, Zimmermann seems like he has told the truth about what happened. Even having passed voice stress detector tests. Some witnesses have even verified his statements. Having said that, if Zimmerman says Martin was going for the gun, is he telling the truth? And if so, does he now have the right to use it?

At the least. I guess I'm just shocked that so many people on here are cool with someone getting shot and killed and all the other guy had to say was, my life was threatened so I should get off with no problems.

I feel that if you take a life there should be consequences.

But what if George really did feel threatened? I think it's ignorant to question what people think and feel in a situation that were not involved, within in reason of course.

And it doesn't bring martin back nor help the grief his parents have but don't underestimate the emotional and mental impact one can have when taking a life, innocent or not. George does have consequences to live with the rest of his life

We've pointed out some facts of the case tobias and some things that were testified to have happened. You don't comment on those but instead continue to spout that an unarmed kid was "murdered. "I can understand why it looks like you're trolling.

A black kid was shot and killed by a hispanic. Unfortunately it isn't that simple of a story. There is a back story and extenuating circumstances relating to the two individuals involved and a community plagued by problems with crime.

A witness said he saw one person on top of another throwing down mma type punches. Plus Zimmerman had a pretty bloody nose. Might have been broken but can't remember. Pretty nasty cuts on the back of his head .

Also according to Zimmermman (take it for what it's worth) Martin saw the gun and apparently was going for it. That is apparently when George thought his life was really in danger. He probably felt it was in danger when his head was being bashed in. If true, this probably sealed the deal to use it.

Bingo

You're right. Zimmerman shot him. At least you guys got some facts right today.

Nothing disparaging about what I said. Sucks he died. Still a true statement though. Just cause he died doesn't mean he was an innocent victim.

Second you and baseballmom keep saying "he was just walking down the street." Or he was possibly casually strolling behind town homes in a neighborhood that had recent crime. But conveniently ignore that. Street or behind town homes. Same thing I guess.

Pretty convenient for George

What I find convenient is that you completely rule out the possibility of this happening. You know cause Martin couldn't possibly be the aggressive one, especially with such a squeaky clean background. How convenient for you to overlook that.

Remember just became Martin was the one to die doesn't mean he was the innocent victim.

According to George, he was heading back to his car when confronted by Martin. Like I said in the last thread, the only people who know what happened are George and Martin. As much as red wanted to be there and claim he knows all the facts, he wasn't. That might come off sounding douche like but hey this is aw.

Morales was clutch all of 2009.

He was especially clutch on May 29th, 2010. 

Maybe early Nazi Germany. Long before the concentration camps. When you were told not support Jewish businesses or Jews weren't allowed in certain places. Even then that's stretching it since slavery has been banned for almost 150 years and segregation for almost fifty. Like I said, it's an extreme stretch.

Well if you don't think gz's account is believable because he's trying to stay out of prison, why should we believe martin was innocent based on his past?

See how that's not fair to both?

So you know for a fact arch that gz had an opportunity to identify himself but didn't?

Taking that into account, why didn't martin identify himself instead of attacking gz?

Well it's easy to say he was wrongly profiled after the fact. However during, it's not so easy. Especially for those who weren't involved and not knowing the complete details of the history of the neighborhood.

Is it a fact that he was following him? I'm not playing devil's advocate I really don't know. I've heard different things, one of which being that he was heading back to his car when Trayvon attacked him.

Correct tdawg. Prosecution says he continued to follow him. Zimmerman claimed he was heading back to his car. So yeah....