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Only if MLB goes to the recently announced NBA format of an 'in season tournament' -- not sure how that's going to work in the NBA but it sounds like the NBA is trying to replicate -in some fashion - the excitement generated by March Madness. My query about whatever. the NBA format will be - is what do the teams that go out in the first round of the 'in season tournament' do for the rest of the tournament ? Mid-season vacation? Play in a 'second chance' consolation round?

didn't get the full quote here -- but you sort of did get into the Disney vs. Arte discussion a little bit. Mead mentioned something about R stuff being routed through the Disney 'department' and Disney folks leaving the office 5 pm on Friday when developing events needed to be responded to, addressed.

enjoyed the Mead. podcast. thanks for doing that. no one asked him what he is doing these days -- I don't think he's just sitting around the house.

have to listen to this,. why did the leave the HOF position? Seemed like a dream job and then he up and left suddenly. --no. explanation really ever given.

Cue up Bob. Seger : "Still the Same". -- second fiddle in S. Cal. That's the Halos history and future. After this season, I just don't see the Halos doing much the next ten years. best players in all of MLB and we're a second division team. Next year Ohtani won't be in an Angels uni and Trout may be gone as well. New stadium? Angels will be fortunate if they can negotiate a new lease with the City 0f Anaheim after all the shenanigans that went on with the prior lease extension effort.

I think this Halos team is there. It matches the dysfunction at the end of the Terry Collins years with the Mo Vaughn fiasco. The Halos started the new TROUT/ OHTANI era with a lot of promise, hope and potential -- we had two of the best players of all MLB and things were looking up -- and then the reality of 2023 hit. Now Ohtani's Angels career is over, Trout may be gone next, Arte is on again/ off again selling the team owner, the stadium lease situation with the scandal ridden City of Anaheim administration is in limbo and no better than it was three years ago - heck - I don't know who's been worse as a municipal partner -- the hapless Oakland City Council/ Oakland Coliseum with the "Las Vegas A's" or the Angels / Anaheim situation. It feels as if in the last two months - topped off by the Ohtani cleaning out his locker story (a PR disaster that could have been avoided by the front office/ PR folks) the Angels franchise has regressed a decade -- and it may take just long for the Angels to field a regularly competitive team again. I expect by Spring Training 2024, Ohtani (already gone) and Trout will be gone and the Angels roster will resemble a AAA team much as the line up the Angels will be handing to the plate umpire the next two weeks. Time to DFA the GM, Manager and - Arte - sell the team !! Yep - folks - we're at a very low point for this franchise. -- Halos will never be on even footing with the Dodgers as S.Cal's 'second MLB team' -- at one point during Arte's tenure, when McCourt was destroying the Dodgers brand - that the Halos had a window of opportunity -- that has long since passed -- and now the Trout/ Ohtani era is apparently over. Disappointment is an understatement. Sorry for the downer post -- but that's how if feels to be a long time Halos fan this week.

Ohtani out for the rest of his ANGELS career. I don't see him playing another game in a Halos uni

I don't think Ohtani plays another game in a Halos' uni. why should he? his arm is hurt, the Halos games are meaningless at this point, he's likely not coming back to Anaheim. Maybe he can appear for an at bat or two in one or two of the final games at home in Anaheim - just to say goodbye to the fans.

I said it at the time -- what in the heck was LaRussa doing getting back behind the bench at 78 - after he had such a stellar career -- he was beloved in Chicago -- when he was Cards manager and then years later when he was out of managing for a bit -- he would get invited to and appear at the White Sox fan fest events. at the time he took the ChiSox job at age 78 he was working for the ANGELS as a special assistant to the owner. I think that meant he sat in the owner's luxury suite on those wonderful Anaheim evenings sipping beverages and watching the game from the best seat in the house. He gave that up to go back on the road for 81 games a year -- and within two years it took its toll.

Vegas. Halo -- perhaps but the way I read this move (Salmon and Finley as 'coach like advisors') is that Tempe Spring Training 2024 begins this week in Anaheim with a line up of minor league players. There's always. extra 'coach advisors' hanging around the Tempe complex during Spring Training.

have to admit, when I saw the grave marker, I broke down a bit. it's perfect. thanks for your lovely message - we all miss LOU.

I see this as an upgrade. Hey, at this point, almost anything can help. someone explain to me the Halos deadline deal and dump stuff? I know it. got the Halos 'maybe' under the luxury tax (actually it didn't - but lessened the luxury tax 'penalty fine' amount) but GEEZ there's has to be a better way to do that than to give up some good prospects for truly shorter than short term rental players. I just see the franchise and the front office in free fall.

sorry to have missed the. ZOOM Wake for Lou. I am very pleased to see that so many above were able to partake. I was one of the posters who actually met LOU several times -- at some of the earlier Angelswin.com functions including the year Chuck was able to get Arte Moreno to talk to us at a private session at Tempe Diablo Stadium the post from Lou's brother was heartfelt ( I was going to say 'touching but I knew exactly LOU's expected response to that )! LOU was always fun. I've been somewhat away from posting here - it's been a tough season, I've been busy- ah- a. thousand excuses. But I will always remember the jovial fun loving LOU, a guy who's attitude and sprit is representative of the good folks on this board -- only LOU was able to post stuff that was just a bit better and a lot more funnier than the stuff the rest of post/ posted.

O'Hoppe !!! another Halos IR list guy. -- and coming out of Spring Training and into April - he was looking really solid on defense behind the plate - and at the plate. -- then he went down -- he was looking like ROY material. Schanuel will have the opportunity togged some MLB playing time without a lot of pressure -- that'll be a positive thing. His start has been very promising.

One can hope. I just don't see the Halos. being anything more than a mediocre team for the next decade under Arte's continued ownership. His change of mind to keep the club during the off season just prolonged the total rebuild schedule this franchise needs. Just when you thought the Angels 2023. season couldn't get worse......Ohtani and Trout both out, probably for the season -- as for Ohtani -- why would he play at all the rest of the way? Why risk injury to. try to win meaningless games for a team you're leaving.........

there have been worse -- but this one goes down as one of the most disappointing -- and YES-- us Halos fans have a lot of experience with disappointment. Now there's absolutely no reason to watch/ attend an Angels game the rest of this season,. With Ohtani likely playing his final games in an Angels uniform -- folks would have come out to see him play -- now -- they'll stay home and watch college/ NFL football.

Imagine the Angels anywhere close to playoff spot is all we've done for about a decade. But GEEZ. - no Ohtani , no Trout, Dog days of late August / September -- going to be a lot of empty seats at the ball park.

YES - after today - NONE.

Trout out again? Unbelievable. Ohtani - torn UCL -- is he out for the season, too? Definitely not pitching again this year. well, it's not like the Halos are in the thick of the playoff spot chase. But GEEZ.

Been a tough week for AW.com folks and followers. GEEZ. I. guess these. things happen when you've been around some 25 years. Still - sad to hear, tough to take. I'm used to a respite from 'real world' stuff at AW.com -- not this week.

that is so LOU !!! Hilarious !! May he rest in peace -- he brought a lot of joy and fun times to this Board.

CHUCK - please do that. If you can get his obit link posted - I would appreciate reading that.

Ah man, just saw this. LOU has been a stalwart poster here for two decades. Heck, I think he goes back to the ESPN board days and that's a long time ago. I met him at a couple of the functions/ game events that Chuck and the folks who make this Board happen day. after day, year. after year - organized. My prayers are there for LOU. May the Angels welcome him. - he's been a faithful servant -- and just a great person on this board. Chuck -- thanks for letting us know -- my next door neighbor - a dear friend of mine for more than two decades is battling cancer -- it truly sucks. LOU - you've been a positive force here with witty insightful posts -- heck - you disagreed with me more than half the time so it just shows you know your stuff!!! My thoughts are with you.

The Rengifo trade debacle was something I never could quite understand -- Arte just got impatient and nixed a trade that - on the surface at the time - looked pretty favorable for the Angels. Dealing with/ responding to the LA Dodgers seems to bring out the worst in Arte and his decisions -- the Hamilton signing - which everyone thought was a total disaster from DAY ONE -- was partially in response to some move / signing the Dodgers made that week. As for the Stripling/ Peterson non-trade -- it probably worked out OK for the Angels. Stripling this year has had a tough year and Joe Peterson, IMO. - was /is. a. guy. who strikes out too much. Rengifo is not spectacular but in today's MLB world is one of the longest tenured Angels and does OK when he's in the line up - so it seems. At the time of the 'non-trade' (what ? two years ago?) it appeared the Angels passed up a good deal for Stripling who , at the time, probably could have slotted in as their number 3 or 4 rotation guy. Oh well.

a bit harsh on Arte. He's certainly. made mistakes (Josh Hamilton signing leaps to the top of my list). But he's a sole owner. competing against the conglomerates. He probably should have sold the club this past winter. This looming Ohtani decision is daunting -- if the Angels can't sign him - and all signs point that way - they need to move him to obtain several top level prospects (probably from Baltimore) which is far more than the value of a two month rental - which Ohtani would be in Baltimore -- but. he would play to sold out ballparks and may lead a team of young talented players to a long post-season run / championship. That maybe worth the price of FOUR sure fire MLB prospects for the O's. Meanwhile the Halos re-tool rather than having a draft pick compensation when Ohtani walks during the off-season and signs with the. Dodgers just up the freeway.