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Rosenthal’s report about the Angels seemingly contradicts Olney’s report from earlier in the week…but I guess it depends on how you interpret Olney’s report.

I think Snell is going to be an Astro, and soon. Just feels like the break out from the thaw that Boras has been positioning for. We’ll see.

We can hope so.

So Boras has been fueling the rumors that we’re very much involved?

May not be a “few years” if it’s an opt out deal after one year…..unlike us, they might be willing to forfeit the pick and pay the tax in the short term because they are a legit Series contender.

Marsh was straight up for O’Hoppe.

Not sure that has any appeal to the Angels. I guess with an opt out deal, if he tanks, he doesn’t opt out and we keep him but that’s not good…if a pure one year deal is all he and Boras are willing to do, I don’t see why we’d agree to that. You still lose the draft pick.

I don’t either. I think we are a safe landing spot, meaning Olney’s info is probably accurate…but, at the end of the day, I don’t think it’s us unless he just doesn’t have other legit options…

Fair point....Snell not signing has everything to do with Boras holding out for his price. But it isn't necessarily a mutually exclusive situation. There is history with Arte that gives everyone reason to pause. But, until we see how this finally ends, I'm not passing judgment on Arte. He gets a pass at this point and if someone else signs Snell, it may be a deal that doesn't make sense for the Angels. We'll see.

Particularly if he won't be ready to start the season...

I haven't been big on Martinez but, if it's a one year deal, that might be different. I've liked the idea of leaving the DH spot open but if you could get a proven middle of the order bat for a year, and we sign Snell, things get interesting. What was going to be a "developmental year" becomes somewhat intriguing.

JD Davis would be cheaper and wouldn't necessarily take AB's away from Adell and Moniak.

I've been in the "sit tight and let the young guys develop" mode this offseason but I've changed my thinking. If Snell and JD Martinez can be had on manageable deals, considerably less than they wanted at the beginning of the offseason, then I'm in for it. It doesn't necessarily make us serious playoff contenders but it takes you from "no chance" to at least "maybe on the periphery of the wild card". But, like you, I fully expect Arte to mess it up. His timing is maddening. He'll spend foolishly (Rendon, Pujols, Hamilton) and then refuse to spend when it seemingly does make sense (now).

I was thinking of Morosi, who I also like….he really messed up….

No offense taken…I like Olney and I put some stock in what he said although he did qualify it…Rosenthal is ok I guess. I like Jeff Passan though he really messed up with the Ohtani to Toronto story. Heyman I take with a grain of salt.

Yeah...should have read the article before I posted. Just references Olney and Heyman...Nothing beyond that....

Who is this guy? Olney has some credibility but I have no idea who Pagaduan is and whether he actually has any real info.

He would be a good get but you have to think he’s looking for a place with more likely playing time….with the Angels, it depends on whether Rendon is healthy (yeah, I know) and whether Schanuel settles in as an everyday player.

Fair point. But I would qualify it with this: I’m not sure teams are going to pay the steep asking price for Snell or Montgomery even with an injury. Clevenger or Lorenzen might be more likely to benefit.

I think he did with Bellinger.

Snell (and Boras) are creating a problem for whoever is left in the bidding. If you sign him to a deal with an opt out after one year, it's starting to look like you won't get a full 6 months for the one year you get guaranteed. 5 months? 5 1/2 months? Dunno....but if you're the Angels, who aren't, on paper at least, a playoff caliber team, do you want less than a full year of Snell with the loss of a draft pick? You would think Perry wants a multi-year deal with no opt outs.

Salary is high, particularly this late, when most teams have their budgets locked in.

Sure....but I don't think Jim Bowden is a liar...I don't always agree with him but I don't think he is a liar...There could be reasons they didn't get an MRI....there are other medical records you look at besides an MRI....I just had a CT Scan and there were decisions the Doctor made there. How long since the last one, CT v MRI...I'm not a Doctor....Hell, the Red Sox are cheap, maybe they didn't want to spend a few thousand dollars.