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Post your predictions here for season game #28, 5/2/13 vs. Baltimore.  Game time is 7:05 pm PST.  Winners from today's game #27, 5/1/13 vs. Oakland, are shown below.

4 Points, 2 Points

None

3 Points

Angels N Skins  (Aybar 1-4, 1 single)

1 Point

Mark68  (Wilson 5 K's)

Tank  (Aybar 1-4)

Jellybean  (Trout 2-4)

Angels_Baseball  (Wilson 5 K's)

JAHV76  (Aybar 1-4)

TCB  (Trumbo 1 HR)

George  (Hamilton 2-4)

katrinab  (Trout 2-4)

ZachMartin1994  (Pujols 1 RBI)

paws  (Aybar 1-4)

2002_halos_II  (Trumbo 1 RBI)

SoWhat  (Trumbo 1 HR)

BatsnBeer  (Trumbo 1 RBI)

You can't do this and win, it takes some discipline.  It's not the first time we have done this, and probably not the last.

Dipoto was never given the permission to rebuild.

He had to keep the manager and coaching staff.

When he gets the OK to build, he will start to build.

At this point he has to suffer, along with the fans.

How do you know that?

I totally agree that Dipoto would have shit canned Scioscia right away if he had 100% control.

When did DiPoto ever indicate that he was unhappy with Sciscia's performance?  And how do you know he doesn't have 100% control over manager and coaching decisions?  He had enough to relieve Hatcher of his job.  I think DiPoto is brash enough to handle Scioscia if that is what he wants.  Or maybe he feels a little guilty that he is a large part of the problem?

There was a time that I thought Arte was the best thing that ever happened to the Angels.

A decade has passed, and his ownership has turned into a train wreck.

I still think he can pull it out of disaster mode, and be successful, but he needs to turn things over to someone who knows what they are doing.

He made a good move in hiring Jerry Dipoto, he needs to trust in that decision, and back away, and let Jerry do the job.

I think the verdict is still out on DiPoto.  He hasn't been in the job very long, but some of the player selections he's made are real shaky.  I would almost say he's making a lot of inexperienced, rookie type mistakes.  I also think your second line is incorrect, the ownership has not turned into a train wreck, but the baseball organization is turning into one.  I would be inclined to sweep out the manager, coaches, GM and many in the GM's organization if this mess does not settle down in the next few months.  That's easy for us to say, but it will cost Arte a lot of bucks and rebuilding time.

Oakland has scored 48 runs in the five games against us this month.

That's pretty good huh?  What's the record?

There are a lot of interesting points in this thread, but the most interesting question to me is "why do we start seasons so slowly?"  I would say it's because of the type of player personnel we keep injecting into the organization, mainly highly paid free agents from other organizations who have to adjust to system employed by the manager and coaches, and learn to be effective with existing personnel from with our own farm system.  I think it takes far longer to assimilate these type of players than we all think it should.  Look at Toronto, they too were lauded for added some highly regarded talent this off season, and they too are off to a very slow start.  Pumping free agents into an organization year after year of the sort that we have signed (Pujols, Hamilton) is maybe too much of a change to be effective until they learn to play effectively together for possibly many months.  Add to this the personal expectations they carry with them usually results in under performance to their mean to start their run with the Angels.  Autry had this problem, so does Moreno, and possibly both situations could have been avoided had a completely different philosophy been employed where we sunk much higher sums into player development from within.

With regard to our pitching issues this year, I believe the problem started as early as two years ago when we traded for pitchers in their prime (example Haren) and gave away promising young pitchers from inside our own organization like Corbin and Skaggs.  The farm system was depleted for immediate possible success, that did not materialize to the extent we all hoped for.  When you lose young pitching from within, then lose free agent pitchers, or trade them to fill position holes, then you are forced to back fill pitching with marginally successful types with higher risk like Blanton, or a host of marginally effective relievers.  And when those marginally effective pitchers fail there is no one in sight to give up any hope of picking up the slack.  Now we are looking at an overhaul, but no one within the organization wants to jump into that wagon, at least not yet.

There is no easy fix for the mess we have right now.  I do believe if we enter into the "firing zone" we should make sure we cut deep enough to force some major changes in team philosophies and strategy.  Singling out one or two individuals won't accomplish much as far as I am concerned.  The organization needs to find a way to get strategically out front of the other teams in our league.  I'm rambling, so I will shut up now.

Pujols 2-4, 1 single.

Post your predictions here for season game #27, 5/1/13 vs. Oakland.  Game time is 12:35 pm PST.  Winners from tonights game #26, 4/30/13 vs. Oakland, are shown below.

Special congratulations to Mark68 for becoming the 2013 April Player of the Month with 26 Total Points scored.  This tied an all time record also set by JAHV76 in September 2012 for points scored in a month.

The updated Predictions Scoreboard through April has been posted below as well, as well  as in its usual place under the Rules Thread above.  In April 1,228 Predictions were made over 26 games.  405 total points were scored.  Good job by all, should be a good race in 2013!!!

4 Points, 2 Points

None

3 Points

The Angels  (Kendrick 1-4, 1 single)

Redondo  (Kendrick 1-4, 1 single)

Angels N Skins  (Trumbo 1-4, 1 RBI)

Jammer36  (Hamilton 1-4, 1 single)

Jeff M  (Kendrick 1-4, 1 single)

paws  (Aybar 1-4, 1 single)

1 Point

stemyn  (Trumbo 1-4)

EDinTUSTIN  (Trumbo 1 HR)

JAHV76  (Trumbo 1-4)

ZachMartin1994  (Trout 2-4)

Angels_Baseball  (Hamilton 1-4)

Ray McKigney  (Trout 2-4)

TCB  (Kendrick 1-4)

HeavenlyHalos  (Trumbo 1-4)

2002_halos_II  (Kendrick 1 single)

2013 PREDICTION GAME

SCOREBOARD

[Year to Date Through 4/30/13 - Season Game 26]

1.   Mark68.....26 (5) - "April 2013 Player of the Month, Ties All Time Record for Points in a Month with JAHV76"

2.   Ray McKigney.....23 (6)

3.   JAHV76.....19 (4)

4.   Redondo.....19 (4)

5.   paws*.....18 (3)

6.   AngelsAndRamsFan.....17 (2)

7.   Angels N Skins.....16 (4)

8.   HeavenlyHalos.....16 (2)

9.   The Angels.....15 (2)

10. GoodTimesGoneBad.....14 (3)

11. TCB.....14 (3)

12. SoCalSportsFan.....14 (1)

13. Troutipoo27.....14 (1)

14. 2002_halos_II.....13 (2)

15. Jeff M.....12 (2)

16. Torridd.....12 (2)

17. katrinab.....12 (1)

18. notalpujols.....11 (2)

19. Ochocinco!.....11 (2)

20. Peyton.....11 (2)

21. Jellybean.....11 (1)

22. AZMike.....11

23. Jeff S......10

24. Pbonetheman.....9 (1)

25. SoWhat.....9 (1)

26. tdawg87.....9 (1)

27. tomsred**.....9 (1) - "2010 Champion"

28. Jimmag.....8 (1)

29. ZachMartin1994.....8

30. Kenny.....7 (2)

31. Lawrence.....7 (2)

32. Jammer36.....7 (1)

33. BatsnBeer.....6

34. HaloFromVegas.....6

35. m0nkey.....6 - "2011 Champion"

36. Angels_Baseball.....5 (1)

37. bigfish27.....4 (1)

38. hk47.....4 (1)

39. scooby10672.....4 (1)

40. Geoff Stoddart.....4

41. nando714.....4

42. stemyn.....4

43. GalericX.....3 (1)

44. nate.....3 (1)

45. poker1.....3 (1)

46. StephenGlansberg.....3 (1)

47. Tank.....3 (1)

48. EDinTUSTIN.....3

49. George.....3

50. ispy45.....3

51. Jim.....3

52. Primitive.....3

53. The Dude.....3

54. True Gritch.....3

55. Eric.....2

56. LBHalos17.....2

57. open_speed.....2

58. Waller.....2

59. Agalloch.....1

60. Angel Dog and Beer.....1

61. CaliAngel.....1

62. Cory.....1

63. Dochalo.....1

64. ELEVEN.....1

65. Eric Notti.....1

66. ettin.....1

67. ineedanap.....1

68. Kody Mac.....1

69. RallyTime.....1

70. TrumBomb.....1

71. Soto Speaks.....0  "2012 Champion"

Following each player is the year to date points total, along with the total of 3 and/or 4 points wins shown in parenthesis.

* Not eligible to win prizes  (conflict of interest)

**Administrator, not eligible to win.

Burnett instead of Roth last night would have been nice.

Burnett is currently hurt, again.

Some people like Scosia could care less about the time of the game.

In fact, it gave him more face time ( sour fixed face) to 1) think about his buyout or paid years of retirement and 2) more reason for Arte to observe how he has failed and continues to fail to motivate our Halos!!                 

I'm sure Scioscia wanted to stay there over six hours and watch his team underperform, LOL.

we're playing tonight to end up with a 10-16 April record.........this is very much like last year -- a poor April haunted the Halos all season and ended up costing them the season.

 

can't dig yourself such a huge hole that you then must climb out of.

 

Well, we're better than Houston...........

The hole is already dug.  The only way out is to win, and win one night at a time.  Tonight would be a start, or will we dig the hole a little deeper?

Yeah, I think he should hit from center field.  I'm sure his average will go up a few points.  It's all about the proper alignment.

Frieri 1.0 IP, 0 ER's.

Post your predictions here for season game #26, 4/30/13 vs. Oakland.  Game time is 7:05 pm PST. 

Here are the winners from The Marathon game of 4/29/13 vs. Oakland.

4 Points, 3 Points, 2 Points

None

1 Point

Mark68  (Hanson 6.0 IP)

AZMike  (Hanson 6.0 IP)

Ray McKigney  (Trumbo 1 single)

HeavenlyHalos  (Trout 1 single)

Troutipoo27  (Hanson 6.0 IP)

bigfish27  (Hanson 6.0 IP)

m0nkey  (Trumbo 1 single)

ZachMartin1994  (Trout 1 single)

Jammer36  (Hanson 6.0 IP)

EDinTUSTIN  (Trumbo 1 HR)

AngelsAndRamsFan  (Trumbo 1 single)

SoCalSportsFan  (Trout 1 single)

True Gritch  (Hamilton 1 RBI)

SoWhat  (Trumbo 1 single)

Eric Notti  (Bourjos 1 run)

Peyton  (Pujols 1 BB)

Trout 2-4, 1 HR

I doubt Scioscia will be dismissed this year unless we finish in 4th or 5th place. Third or better and he keeps his job for another year.

 

He certainly won't last until 2018, though, if we continue on this present course.

Depends on how many more poor pitchers DiPoto can dig up and put on the payroll.

Yeah, but about a month ago 90% of this board would have given Mike Trout a 10 year contract for whatever he wants.

They have plenty of incentive to improve.  They don't sound like a group that is happy with losing.  Now they might not have the ability to improve, that's another matter.

I agree with you that it has happened but it happening is the exception and not the rule.

Actually I would believe it's a very small minority.  Managers, coaches, and players just don't suddenly change in that regard.  Their skills may diminish, but rarely their fire to achieve.

The 2013 Predictions Scoreboard has been updated through Game No. 24, 4/28/13 vs. Seattle.  The next scoreboard update will occur after Tuesday's game against Oakland, 4/30/13.  Also the Player of the Month (April) will be announced at that time.

I left the Angels off the list since we already now their stat lines. Plus I didn't feel like typing a bunch more names.

Just cut and paste the entire Angels roster, it's quick and easy.

He's going great.  I still don't understand why he isn't better at stealing bases however.

Guys handle stress differently. Thinking that they don't care because they don't act mad and break things is a mistake. The kind of mistake that costs you a player like Edmonds.

You mean like Donnie Moore?