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  1. I hesitated at first because of 2 reasons: 1) The conspiracy theory that the vaccine is 666, and 2) I was afraid the vaccine would kill me quick because I had a massive pulmonary embolism 5 years ago which did a lot of damage. I later realized that the conspiracy theory which was spread by a wacko You-Tube Evangelist by the name of "Richie from Boston" was entirely false, and that I had more of a chance of dying by not taking it and catching COVID-19. That would kill me for sure. Now I feel I have done my part in bringing an end to this pandemic madness.

  2. On 4/19/2021 at 2:58 PM, daygloman said:

    The name change was a bad decision. 

    The ONLY thing they got "right" was not putting "Los Angeles" on the gear.

    You are right as always, Bobby. The decision for Los Angeles was a poor one and uneccessary to boot. Everyone has heard of Anaheim/Orange County and can make the connection to the L.A. Market. I Think Arte is a good man, but he did make a mistake with the name.

     

  3. 1 hour ago, Stradling said:

    I’ll explain it, but you hate Arte so you will dismiss it.  Arte, who made his money in advertising, changed the name to increase TV revenue.  His tv deal went from $500 million to $3 billion, for 20 years.  So not only did Arte believe it so did Fox.  So either Arte and Fox are wrong or yk is wrong.  If you’d like to disprove it show all the tv deals that have exceeded $3 billion since Arte’s Angels deal.  The name change (what a boring old ass fucking topic) has ALWAYS been about tv money.  

    It was never needed as most everyone has heard of Anaheim/Orange County and can make the tie to the Los Angeles Market without the L.A. Moniker. It actually ended up doing more harm then good. The Anaheim Ducks have been around maybe 1/3 as long as the The Los Angeles Angels and they have made it to more post seasons and two Stanley Cup Finals. People know the Anaheim Ducks is an L.A. Market Team. People still complain about the name change and I have told Angels Fans who still complain: 

    "If you didn't boycott, don't complain."

    Is There a New Urban Legend in Major League Baseball?: Sports Timeline of Angels Baseball from 2005 to 2020: Baxter, William Edwin: 9781692824631: Amazon.com: Books

  4. 2 hours ago, WicketMaiden said:

    A foreigner's view: The change from Anaheim Angels to LA Angels brought much more instant name recognition, whilst also bringing a certain glamour to the name by the association with LA. Nobody has heard of Anaheim over here (I had to look it up on a map when I started following the Angels in 2002) and LA conjures up images and associations of Hollywood, Beverley Hills, Sunset Boulevard, ideas of success, glamour and prosperity that simply aren't associated with the name Anaheim. This makes the team sound more glamorous and attractive to the casual observer and casual sports fan, and therefore makes the team a more enticing prospect for advertisers with a national and international reach. So purely from a marketing perspective it appears to benefit the franchise (the Pujols deal did a similar thing btw, it raised the consciousness of the Angels above that of the Angels fan base and into mainstream news whenever Albert chased another record). 

    Having said all that, I still think it's a bit silly to the called the Angels Angels but there you go. California Angels would be my choice, but I guess the other Californian teams might object.

    NB: We also associate Los Angeles with gridlock and drive-by shootings - which appears to be counter-intuitive at first glance, because how does one drive-by during gridlock? 

    Our Professional Baseball Team in my city (Colorado Springs, Colorado pictured below) also changed it's name from the Colorado Springs Sky Sox to the Rocky Mountain VIBES. Colorado Springs represents the Pikes Peak Region or the Colorado Springs-Pueblo Media Market. Rocky Mountain, however, represents the Front Range Corridor which includes Pueblo, Colorado Springs, Denver, Boulder, Fort Collins and Cheyenne, Wyoming. In your case, Anaheim represents Orange County which is 3 million people. Los Angeles on the other hand represents pretty much all of Southern California which includes Orange County.

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  5. 19 hours ago, Φαήλος said:

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    In this case one refers to a media market area, and the other to the team name, and the media market name is in Latin which makes it less redundant, so I'm not to bothered by that. What I believe is this: for an Anaheim Team or Orange County Team, "Los Angeles" isn't needed for people to make the  to connection the Los Angeles Media Market. However, Arte thought it was needed.  I identify the Anaheim Ducks (NHL) and the Orange County SC (USL) to be a Los Angeles Market Teams. 

  6. Major League Cities market to entire areas, not just the cities themselves. Of the three Major League Cities, Los Angeles is the only one that markets to ALL of Southern California which is what Arte Moreno wanted to do. San Diego and Anaheim represent much smaller areas within Southern California.  Arte also knows that "Los Angeles Angels" still causes hard feelings from the people living in the Anaheim/Orange County Area. I lived most of my life in the AnaheimOrange County Area (now I'm in Colorado Springs which has become my home), and I belong to a Facebook Group called "You Know You Grew Up in Anaheim When...." Naturally, the subject of Angels Baseball comes up a lot on that Facebook Group. Whenever I refer to the team as the "Los Angeles Angels (which is what they are)," in that group, there has been backlashing from other posters. A lot of them start calling Arte Moreno names and other choice words. The people in Anaheim (or people who have lived there) still despise the name "Los Angeles" and Arte Moreno, and they still bad mouth the name. With that, do you think it would be wise for "Los Angeles Angels" to be put on shirts where fans would be walking around the city wearing these shirts among these people? Angels Fans would not be safe walking around the streets of L.A. with "Los Angeles Angels" shirts either, because a lot of the people living in the City of Los Angeles believe there is only ONE Los Angeles Baseball Team--The Dodgers.  Arte Moreno knew what he was doing to keep Los Angeles off the team's merchandise, and market the team as "The Angels" or just "Angels."

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