FanSince'98

Just now, Inside Pitch said:

Not sure if you were here last year but Escobar was in the middle of a better season last year and when the guy that covers the team was approached with questions about whether the team was going to trade him he told us that the feeling he was getting was that nobody wanted him.  

Perhaps you could tell us the obvious suitors for their services..   Because the Nats traded for two guys with WHIPS under 0.800...  So, better than what we have to offer..  The Rockies traded for a RP with a significantly better track record and it doesn't seem like anyone has any interest in Escobar...   The D-backs, Brewers and Rockies all have better players manning 3B.  The NL Wild Card race is not close -- it's a limited market and the team that most needed help in the pen, got it...   The most obvious targets in the AL WC race for RP help was TB -- they just acquired Dan Jennings, again, a player with a much better recent track record.  

We are in total agreement in who the most obvious potential targets should be -- but again...  you need to find a willing partner.     

 

I agree that Eppler has missed many opportunities or been beaten in deals with competitive teams that could've traded with us, that doesn't mean our players aren't desired, it means we missed our chance. HOPEFULLY there are other teams we aren't thinking of willing to work with us, but it seems once again the league has passed us by while we have our heads in the sand. Agreed on that. 

Just now, Lou said:

The pitchers are a possibility.

Escobar?  Let's see, who needs a slow .271 slap-hitting, terrible fielding 3rd baseman? 

The options are limited now that teams have added infielders and made trades but I thought BOS was a good option I'm sure there are other teams who could use an above average hitter who averages about 1.0-2.0 WAR per season in his career. You may be down on him but he's not worthless and Norris/Hernandez are even more valuable so don't give up on that yet, the only mistake we can make is not making ANY rebuild/restructure trades. 

18 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

The thing about trades.....  someone else has to want what we have first....   

Judging by their stats what makes you think those 3 aren't of value to other teams?

2 minutes ago, Lou said:

And leave $87 Million on the table? 

I'm surprised you took the time to respond to that one haha, we should never release Albert as long as there's a DH in the AL. 

Just now, Inside Pitch said:

The thing about trades.....  someone else has to want what we have first....   

True...so...

Norris: 3.12 ERA/1.116 WHIP

Hernandez: 2.34 ERA/1.01 WHIP

Escobar: .271 AVG/.328 OBP

No reason at all we shouldn't get some mid tier strong potential prospects for those guys. 

8 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Don't misread this.  If the Angels had more solid core guys to build around then uou can have the luxury of lots and lots of patience.

I don't want 2018 to be a throw away season.  The Angels have Trout and Simmons at this point.

The Angels need more reliable offense in many spots in the lineup.  The reality is Kole has not performed well enough right now to have me not consider RF as a position to upgrade.

Maybe I shouldn't say I am almost done with Calhoun.  Maybe I should say I am done with having like 6 holes in the lineup and in order to fix it, I'm not excluding Calhoun as a possible movable piece.

If the Angels can solve three other spots sure I can roll with Calhoun.

Calhoun was in the All good group of three.  Now he isn't.  I don't know that RF is set now.

If that makes me "ignorant". . .I disagree.  It makes me a realist.

So your argument is players can't have a bad first half of the season on bad teams they can only do that on good teams? Oh okay sure....or it just happens to everyone on all teams even guys like Bryce Harper. Would you have traded Harper last year after he hit .240? lol

13 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

Frickin sell off some parts. This team is toast (this year). Make some trades.

I'd really hate to see this team on August 1 without having made any substantial trades, but for some reason I can't shake the feeling that's how it will be.

Agreed, if he doesn't trade off obvious pieces like Norris, Escobar, Hernandez, etc I'll lose a LOT of faith in our front office. 

3 hours ago, Dtwncbad said:

I'm pretty close.

I know the Angels have many problems so I am not putting it all on Kole.

But he used to easily be among the things I didn't think needed fixing.

Now he is right in the middle of all the things that need fixing.

Maybe he just isn't good enough.

Are baseball fans really this ignorant and impatient? Calhoun has spent 3 full seasons with us producing 80+ runs or RBIs each season depending on where he hit in the lineup and also a gold glove....then 93 games into one bad season for him and you want to give up. Then go ahead and give up just stop talking about every player who ever has a bad first half. 

22 hours ago, CanadianHalo said:

I still think I rather see us spend 20 mill a year on someone else. He's due 20 mill from 20-22, with a 1 mill buyout after that.

But imo the Padres could do a lot better than that for Myers. A lot

I just don't see how Cron has any value right now

 

You're right, for a guy like Myers they'll expect 2 top prospects or 1 top prospect and some young MLB ready talent.

On 7/23/2017 at 3:48 PM, ghoetke said:

Sorry if this has been covered before,.Everyone thought CJ would be a superstar.  He's been sent down to SLC several times even as a veteran to find himself again.

Is it a confidence problem; was he overrated; other ??

I never thought CJ would be a "superstar," but I thought he would be an excellent 1B like a Trumbo + who could hit for better average and equal power, defense would never be great for either player. Frankly, I think Cron has done exactly that!! It's Scioscia who can't handle power hitters like Cron, Trumbo, Napoli, etc. and he is so impatient he sends them to AAA or trades them before they achieve their potential. 

Look at Cron's first 3 seasons, WAY more consistent than you'd expect, in 120 games on average over his first three seasons he was basically a lock for .260/.310./15 HR/65 RBI. Instead of playing him and letting him achieve that this year if not better over 120+ games, we sign a sunk cost like Valbuena and once against mess with Cron's confidence and ability. This is 100% Scioscia and I'm SICK of it. We lost trumbo and napoli on terrible deals, what next with Cron? The way the Angel's work I'm surprised we didn't trade Cron for Sandoval before he got released like we did with Napoli and Wells.