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It does seem fair to speculate whether or not Moreno is stuck in limbo trying to decide what he wants to do, but I really can’t find anything that isn’t speculation that actually directly supports that. What I will say is the Angels have a PR problem. Having everyone always speculating rather than knowing a direction/philosophy isn’t doing this team any favors. You can’t be responsible for reacting to every speculation, but you should have strong enough messaging where the most of the speculation is dismissed as invalid because it’s not consistent with the strong messaging. What is Arte doing? We don’t know. That is at the heart of all of this.
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Angels Open to Trading Trout (IF he requests one)
Dtwncbad replied to Tyler's topic in LA Angels | MLB Daily
Just curious, but exactly how many “home-grown superstars” do you expect to have at any given time? -
I not “upset” with your opinion. Everyone wants the young guys to play and develop. I just disagree that that it is smarter to “punt” on 2024 rather than attempt to add some productive pieces to have a fighting chance in 2024. And I just being direct and honest that I very much doubt you would actually support spending money next year.
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“START some sort of rebuild”? Dude, they are mostly done with the “rebuild” that is somehow invisible to you. 6 of the 8 position players are young guys with upside. Four of the five starters are in the same category and you have a few good young live arms for the bullpen. At this point in the process, you supplement the team with the few additional players needed to be competitive. Sometimes, the success year happens a year earlier than people think. That could be 2024, so you don’t punt on 2024. The timing of the success of this rebuild will fall on how much/how many of all these young players take significant steps forward this season.
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Yeah, they should trade Neto for a young shortstop. And Schanuel for a young first baseman. And Rengifo for a young infielder. And Adell for a young outfielder, hopefully with some power. And Ohoppe for a young catcher. And Bachman and Joyce for some live young arms for the bullpen. And trade Sandoval, Detmers, Canning and Silseth for some controllable starting pitching. What are they waiting for?
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Maybe. But it’s defendable. If the team wants to punt on being competitive for a year or two then you don’t do this. But the consensus opinion is the team intends to be competitive now. So how do you do that best without killing or really hurting the developmental movement? If you made a deal like this to get Burnes, trade Ward for more pitching and heck go ahead and sign Snell. . . You add about $66m to the payroll, stay under the luxury tax, and you suddenly have a stacked rotation and you try to win by being dominant and deep in the starting rotation with a functional offense. And this really does not cost the Angels any prospects or controllable young players (except Ward, who is not all that young anymore, and you can assume they would be moving him for someone they could at least control for more than 2024.) So what is the real downside other than spending some money BELOW the luxury tax to improve the team?
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The Angels absolutely do not want to trade away any good young players. Would anyone be interested in improving the team for 2024 by trading for Burnes by taking in the Yelich contract? Yelich has five years and $120m remaining ($23.9m per year), and was a 4.1 WAR player last year. We could all speculate how the details would be worked out but it at least appears that marrying Burnes to Yelich would facilitate someone acquiring Burnes. Burnes is projected to get about $15m in arbitration. If he was a free agent, what would the Angels pay him on a one-year contract? $25m? If the Angels acquire a pitcher that has $10m in value for 2024, that effectively makes the cost for Yelich 5 years $110m, or $22m per year. While that isn’t a steal by any stretch, it’s digestible. The points of criticism for this kind of transaction are surely money related. But the Angels don’t have many options to improve by other means. Further, if you had Yelich, that frees up someone like Ward to move in a deal elsewhere to improve the team some other way. Anyway, it is at least notable that taking the Yelich contract matches up with acquiring Burnes. . . and there isn’t much else to talk about.