Swordsman78

In reviewing the Success metrics for a successful start that many of us wanted to spotlight, the Angels have failed themselves and their fans on almost every level. Now even the vaunted 30k/game ave attendance (considered bankable by many) is averaging (4k) from last year, #14 in the majors, and trending even lower. 2024 could end up as the worst attendance year in a generation.

In those years it was much harder to make the playoffs so people didn't really expect it. Now with 3 wild cards, its much more disappointing.

Nimrod, legendary biblical figure of the book of Genesis. Nimrod is described in Genesis 10:8–12 as “the first on earth to be a mighty man.

True. They don't play like they care much at all.

Finally someone is holding them accountable.

You have zero situational awareness or understanding of human psychology, and would require a brick in the face to learn not to walk into walls.

The 1972 Miami Dolphins lost their starting QB early in the season, but still went 17-0 and won the Super Bowl. Keep making lame excuses Strad, unfortunately your type of (fan approved) excuses are part of the reason the Angel organization is so comfortable losing.

The Angles current culture is the reason for lack of success and inability to get the players to perform to their ability on a sustained basis, with occasional runs of over achievement. It starts with having no accountability. The organization to the fans, and the players to each other. The organization has not developed any "leaders" on the field, among the coaches, or in the front office. The Culture does not promote open dialogue with the fan base, nor provide a plan for success. The Culture is to continuously fire scape goats rather than take a deep dive into the roots of the extended playoff drought. There are many other areas that need to be addressed, but I am not going to waste any more time on this.

It's too easy to just blame "lack of talent". That excuse is intellectually lazy and rarely true. The 1958 Green Bay Packers were 1-10-1. I am sure many said they had "lack of talent". You probably would have said that as well based on your current acceptance of poor results. The 1958 Green Bay Packers included 6 future Hall of Fame inductees on that roster. There are plenty of examples like this. Including the 1980 USA Hockey team.

Look at the number of mental mistakes that have cost games. Look at the number of errors that have cost games. Look at the number of players that can't stay in the lineup. Look at the results of the lower levels. Look at the lack of communication to the fans from the front office. Look at the clap back at any sportswriter who tries to hold the organization of player accountable.

How can we tell when Artie and Carpino won't hold a press conference to address the situation and provide a plan moving forward? What person would hitch their wagon to an organization that won't communicate or say anything to show that these terrible results are unacceptable and a maximum effort will be made to become a playoff team.

You certainly seem to think the team record has been wonderful since he left.

I just don't see the effort being put forth or a commitment to winning/excellence. That's a culture problem. Nor do I see the fans holding the organization accountable. This all fine and dandy, but we should all just enjoy baseball for the sake of baseball instead of complaining about Arte because deep down most don't care "enough" to actually organize a boycott or anything within their power to financially make it painful for Arte, or retweet articles critical of the organization. Instead, most will defend the organization as it just gets worse and worse.

At least now you're finally realizing it never was the manager.

The talent we have should have a better record than we currently do.

There is a culture problem on the Angels. Too many front office, players don't care. Sorry. Just collecting a pay check.

Walking out of the tunnel on the upper deck (1st base side) was also my first memory. Can't remember the team that Angels were playing but my first look at the green grass and filed was awe inspiring to this 6 yr old, and unforgettable. Also remember looking out the back of the top deck to see the disneyland fireworks.

In fairness, the Royals are a playoff contender. Tier 3 as of 4/21 and probably still so.

That helmet collection would have been awesome. All the old logos! Back then you could only get helmets at the stadium. I always liked how the sun reflected through the light blue Dodger helmet. Also really wanted the Angel helmet to have the halo. (They never did though, so my mom sewed a halo onto my Angel cap).

My favorite giveaway was helmet night. Having an Angel or Dodger helmet (with the brown adjustable plastic strap) was a big deal

I can't remember which team the Angels played, but I do remember waiting for autographs after the game as the players came up the ramp from the clubhouse on their way to their cars

Pirates have not won a series in their past 5 matches, including getting swept by the A's and losing series to Tier 6 Rockies, and Angels. #Trendingdown.

Agreed. Makes no sense but that's what the Angels did last year. With almost unanimous support from the board.

Perry is the one who should be fired. He keeps saying he's the one accountable and then keeps firing managers. Like last year, lack of depth (Perry's fault) and injuries resulted in a terrible hand for the managers. At this point in the season, last years staff produced superior results, but it is pointless to create more chaos by firing another manager.

Yep. Just take the "L", finish your "honey-dos" and drink some beer. Salvage what's left of your weekend. Catch you on the flip side. Peace.