juansavage1

There are truly offensive things, but the kind of offense these people take has to be taught.

You posted this as an example of the marxist attempt to take over the country...you were the one who called it stupidity...feel free to explain to us how she is incorrect or how the examples she showed are stupid...or was this just another strawman argument you are making and can't back up?

A strawman argument is when somebody argues against an argument that their opponent didn't make. An example would be your claim that I said that Marxists are trying to take over the country.

It so happens that I do think that they're trying to propagate their ideas, a "take over," if you wish. I'm trying to propagate my ideas. Nothing surprising or sinister about wanting your ideas to prevail. So, far, Marxists have been most successful in the social sciences, although much of the humanities have succumbed.

You posted this as an example of the marxist attempt to take over the country...you were the one who called it stupidity...feel free to explain to us how she is incorrect or how the examples she showed are stupid...or was this just another strawman argument you are making and can't back up?

Ah, OK. I thought you were doubting that people made that argument. It's a very common one. The Marxist doesn't think that racism is personal moral issue Members of races without power can't be racist because they don't have the power to do anything about it.

I called it stupid, but, obviously, Marxists think it's very clever.

What if a Jewish judge took a child away from its parents because they weren't raising the kid kosher? Acceptable?

No. Not acceptable. There are cases in England where kids were taken away because the parents taught traditional beliefs on homosexuality? What think you?

If there are people who equate murder with being gay then I think they shouldn't have children.

Can you not tell the difference between hate and a non christian lifestyle?

What about a promiscuous woman? Would you deny her?

college kids saying over the top things....how is that different than in the past, now you just have cellphones and social media

But break down some of her points...

white people enjoy higher paying jobs - going to argue that?

lower rates of unemployment - going to argue that?

longer life expectancy and access to healthcare - going to argue that?

higher rates of poverty - going to argue that?

none of those are off the mark to my knowledge

What conclusion do you draw from those facts?

I looked anywhere.......................

couldn't find it.

Now, if I were to show that many respected professors and students believed it, what would you say?

Juan is getting close to the ignore list for me.

I liked it better when this area of the board had real discussion

Hey! That's what the college kids do.

I think your transparent trolling is pretty amusing usually, but now you're just being an asshole. Stop being an asshole.

I'm an asshole? Why?

No, I am using not allowing a child to live with someone whose ethos is systematic elimination of a race.

Ok. Then, you think there are beliefs that are unacceptable. If you're against the nazi analogy, what about people who have multiple sex partners?

proof for me...marxist take over imminent, starting with bathrooms, based on the ramblings of a mid twenties British chick with 350 some odd twitter followers.

Her argument is standard campus Marxism. You can find it anywhere.  

LOL. Juan actually resorted to Godwin's Law.

I would say communists, but you'd probably give them preference. 

In Juan's world gays and Nazis are the same thing.

Ah, that familiar argument style. Simple question: Would you deny a loving couple of Nazis a foster child? If so, you're using values. In this case, you have an antipathy towards Nazis. 

This answers the question, "would leftists be happy if everybody were leftist?" The answer is "no." They'd turn on each other and jockey for the title of the most oppressed. 

Along with your preferred arrangement for other things. 

He'd like it to be arranged like a sandwich. 

He's actually the textbook definition of a bigot and he using his authority to enforce his bigotry.

What if a liberal judge took a kid away from a Christian couple simply because they were Christians?

The answer is this: 

Any time a judge makes a decision, he has to have certain criteria. He has to judge things based on values. It can't just be food and shelter because men don't live by bread alone. You wouldn't object to a judge taking a kid away from a Nazi family, would you? You wouldn't say, "Well, as long as he's fed." 

The question is what standards we're going to use. 

Here's the summary from a real, live left wing idiot: 

 

AMMA GERMANOTTA RIAZ
NO!

RACISM IS about prejudice and power. It includes the ability to access resources, being able to control it and decide who is restricted from it. It is whiteness (not blackness), which has formed a globalised power structure (this doesn’t have to be material resources.) It therefore becomes redundant to say a black person is racist because while they can be bigoted and ignorant, they lack power.

Moreover, it is not black people who created racial categories. White people enjoy higher-paying jobs, better educational outcomes; have lower rates of unemployment because they don’t suffer racism and prejudice.

They live longer lives because of lower rates of poverty and better access to healthcare, they live in better homes…the list goes on.

Literature and the arts, which are white-normative) imposes a white viewpoint at the expense of ignoring the global non-white experience, but still shapes black people’s lives.

Black Nationalism and Afrocentricism are a reaction to white supremacy. Even the expulsion of Ugandan Asians by Idi Amin in 1958 was a reaction to white supremacy because Indians were considered superior to black people according to a racial hierarchy created by white aristocracy.

 

Do you guys notice the common thread behind all of this stupidity? Power, structures, oppression. 

I'm trying to tie things together. All of these incidents where people say stupid things that don't correspond to reality have the same philosophy as the cause. 

Other than a few loudmouthed idiotic examples, who has said blacks can't be racist?

As you know, I answer all questions.

http://www.bing.com/search?FORM=U280DF&PC=U280&q=black+people+can%27t+be+racist+power

I just did a quick search. Notice the BEST ANSWER to the Yahoo question. 

 

Best Answer:  I know where you're coming from when you said you can't be racist without power. I've learned something about that in my Afican Amer. Lit Class. I'll email you the correct info on that ASAP. I feel that Black People cannot be racist. But they can be prejudice just like any other nationality can. I just hate the fact that we feel that way about eachother, Hating on what eachother has instead of congratulating eachother.

 

 

First, why would people ask these questions in the first place? Because they heard something in class that sounds crazy. 

It's very common among left wing academics. When I talk about these things, I'm not really talking about the people at your job or your friends. 

it's common for leftists to say that blacks can't be racist. why? Because they don't have power. Don't analyze facts like the hunger strike person has far more money and power than me or a poor white dude or that a black man with a knife has more power than a white woman at a particular time- it's stupid. For them, racism isn't a personal moral issue. Where does the idea that groups without "power" can't have a certain belief? What does it remind you of?

I don't think that matters here. He took the kid away from parents when there were no problems and threw him back into the chaos of the foster system.

Do you think it's better that this kid was removed from a good household and now faces uncertainty?

All things being equal, meaning that if it's between a kid on the street or four gay dudes living together, I'd pick the four gay dudes (four gay dudes might be your go to arrangement).  I'd pick Honey boo boo's mom over the street too, although it's probably not best to place kids with single moms. There might be a glut of foster parents in Utah. 

if's funny when you say dumb stuff

 

Phony gang rape has nothing to do with the 50's

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Rape_on_Campus

Rape was against the law in 1950. Rape has always been a bad thing in the Judeo-Christian world. Jews might have invented rape as a bad thing in itself. 

By the way, in your sensitivity classes at work, have you ever heard the phrase that rape is a "crime of power?" How do they know? Did they interview rapists and were told that they wanted power? Any why rape and not stereo theft or mugging? 

Juan staring through his ViewMaster and trying to see the big picture.

Leftists call it "root causes." The difference is that I'm right. 

White dudes: What happened to you guys? It's either Pajama Boy or Donald Trump. People used to respect you.

You guys don't think it's best for kids to be as close to the child-producing norm as possible?