Marsaka

we should definitely be sellers, trade anyone who has value besides Trout ofcourse...and we do have some trade pieces.

Kendrick (top of my list)

Hanson

Vargas

Blanton (if possible)

Callaspo

Bourjos

CJ Wilson

Jerome Williams

I think with a package deal we can get some pretty good prospects for these guys.  Hanson and Vargas could help a team that needs pitching near the deadline, and the others may help us get a decent reliever or two.

We gotta start restocking our farm now.

So then the argument is Friedman vs Dipoto?   Well, you know who the Angel's first choice was right?

 

He wouldn't have ignored the pitching two years in a row.

His first year here, Dipoto signed Pujols & CJ, our staff the year before was one of the best in the league and with CJ expected to be better, he also traded for Greinke.  How is that ignoring the pitching?

This year that idiot moreno decided to put all his eggs in one basket and that was hamilton.  Dipoto had little money left to work with and traded for low cost starting pitching and added some bullpen pieces.  What did you want him to do trade for Verlander, kershaw, and price?  We couldn't afford Edwin Jackson or Anibal Sanchez, each got huge deals way out of our price range.

Stop blaming Dipoto, Arte is the idiot behind the failures of this organization the last few years.

A Mike Scioscia led team ladies and gentlemen.  Buck and Mc****stick are calling his poor managing performance out all game. Scioscia looks like a fool. 

Im not watching the game, what are they saying?

I'm ready for a change but if we do it now it will mean the end of the season. This team has been awful early on this season but in seasons past they have been bad and turned it around. We need to hope for a turn around.

Season is already over, and unless you think Scioscia will all of a sudden become a good manager, there is no reason to keep him around.

Stradling:  The point was they make the same mistakes over and over again.  Yes major league players still need instruction, so if a player makes a mistake, they find a way to correct it.  Thats how you win games.  Thats what a manager is for isnt it?  Or is the entire coaching staff just getting paid to do nothing?  What a waste of money...

Yes, but you managed to pick the two things that Scioscia is responsible for and even those are debatable.  The runners are making mental mistakes on the basepaths on a spur of the moment basis on their own as well as the coaches sending runners a base too far.  The coaching staff errors are directly attributable to Scioscia, but the players have to take credit for their play as well as the front office needs to take credit for the tools they gave to Scioscia to work with.

 

No one is blameless, of course.  But the narrow-minded focus that replacing Scioscia would somehow miraculously cure the rest of the ills of this team is both ignorant and short-sighted.

 

This team is, top to bottom, horrendous.  The manager, whomever he is, can only do so much.  I just find it ironic that those that are so hell bent to blame Scioscia on every ill of this team don't ever want to give him credit for the teams successes.  In their minds, if the Angels lose, it's because of Scioscia, if the Angels win, it's despite Scioscia.

 

Try a little objectivism, please.

There's other things, little things that Scioscia doesn't do.  Like what's with Trumbo dropping pop  ups over and over again?  Did Scioscia go over how to properly catch a pop up with him?  Why does he keep dropping those?  And Kendrick in the Oakland series made a key error in a 1 run game by backhanding a ball, he did the SAME thing yesterday.  Is anyone, (like a manager maybe), gonna scold him or instruct him how to get in front of a ball so he doesnt cost the team a win?  

Apart from the terrible defense, the baserunning has been atrocious since '04.  Even good baserunners like Pujols and Hamilton come here and do stupid shit, costing the team big innings and big outs.

Scioscia's bullpen usage has been key to at least 4 losses, I'm not gonna go over all of them, but my god it seems like he puts the opposing team in a better position to win with his bullpen management.  That 7-2 lead in the 8th inning against the a's was an example of how clueless he is when using his bullpen.  2 days later Cespedes comes up with 2 outs in the 9th and gets a 2-0 count against frieri, frieri throws one down the middle making the count 2-1.  I scream at the TV: DONT THROW THAT PITCH EVER AGAIN! JUST WALK HIM!   What does Scioscia do?  NOTHING, frieri throws the same exact pitch down the middle and cespedes swings and ties the game in the 9th with 2 outs.  UNBELIEVABLE!

Oh, and remember not intentionally walking Joey friggen Votto the first game of the year with the game on the line?  

People don't wanna blame Scioscia for anything, but he deserves a lot of blame for why this team is so horrendous.  He doesn't even MANAGE ANYTHING ANYMORE.  Not the baserunning, not the fielding, not the pitching..nothing.

I think you forgot Williams has a history of getting shelled by the Rangers

carpenter has a history of getting shelled by everyone.  he shouldnt even be on the active roster and scioscia chose him to get out of the jam over williams?  lol

I find it hilarious that the organization is paying Carpenter the league minimum to pitch with the game on the line and paying Williams 2 mill to be a mop up guy.  Scioscia is a terrible manager and I'm shocked there are people still  defending him.

It's going to take more than a tie game, one out , nobody on at bat to change my take on this guy.

Sorry but- clutch hit, low stress AB does not make this guy a clutch hitter.

Same game but a man on second or two outs and a guy on third and I bet this guy doesn't come through.

Exactly, if it was bases loaded 2 outs in extra innings, i guarantee he strikes out.

Why you ask?  Because the rangers wont throw anything near the plate in that situation and Howie will end up hacking at everything and get himself out like he always does in pressure spots.

Pujols and Kendrick are both hitting .353 with RISP situations. In high leverage situations Pujols has a .708 OPS, Kendrick has a .844 OPS.

Anecdotal evidence is popular with this crowd.

What about their careers?

I'd like to see him to do it more than once before I consider him unclutch lol, you people are ridiculous.  

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

Honestly, his swing looked much better this year in spring training, mostly line drives.   Similar to the old Vernon from Toronto and the Yankees saw that.  That is why they traded for him and it looks like they were right to do so.

I dont think he hates the angels, I think he just finally recaptured his old swing.

Angels cant win a world series with a player who is terrible at situational hitting and folds under pressure like kendrick.

If we wanna win, we gotta trade kendrick and put callaspo at 2nd,  kendrick is just not a championship caliber player...he belongs on a team of losers like the astros.

Ya I dont get where this leadership thing is coming from.  Torri was outspoken yes, but that doesn't mean he's a leader....and it's not like the angels had amazing success when he was the "leader" here anyways.

I hate Howie Kendrick with a passion, CJ Wilson is my least favorite pitcher.

I like Jimenez and Richards the most.

Bourjos in Scioscia's doghouse also?  Why does he hate letting him get consistent playing time, it's not like Shuck has better potential...I dont get it.

I maintain that you give Scioscia a couple months - through May - and Dipoto the whole year. If the Angels aren't above .500 by the end of May then you show Scioscia the door. If the the Angels don't at least compete for the postseason, Dipoto gets canned.

 

But I also still think that the Angels are going to figure this out and be above .500 in early May and get really hot in June.

scioscia kept richards in too long last night and cost the team 2 runs and almost resulted in another loss.  he keeps making the same mistakes over and over again. he cant even tell when his pitchers are tired and there stuff is not as crisp.   you cant keep him till may because the team might be 15 games out by then.

I think Dipoto strengths are scouting/trading and building players up from the organization, and then filling the missing pieces with key affordable free agents.  Arte wants a world series now, and the building from within is not going to happen here.  It's pretty much been sign the highest priced free agents, even if you don't really need them, and hope they did what they did last year for the angels and it's turned into a complete disaster.  

Dipoto is a good GM, it's just that this organization (moreno) is just not the right fit for him. 

as someone who isn't biased, i think the only poor move he made is the hamilton signing. that's 25 million a year that could have gone to keeping hunter and getting some pitching help.

Hamilton was all Moreno,  More than likely an overreaction to the dodgers signing Greinke.  Gm's always end up taking all the blame though.

Someone said it looks like the players are tanking on purpose to get rid of Scioscia.  I almost feel the same way looking at how disenchanted they are within the game and even Mike Trout looks miserable out there.  

There's something going on between either Scioscia or Josh Hamilton or possibly both that is causing this terrible chemistry.  

Jose Mota

Honestly Mota is annoying in general, but he pretty much hits the nail in the head when he does his analysis at the end of the games.  I think he would do a good job as manager because at least he doesn't sugar coat things and sees them for what they are.

Rally Killer Kendrick in 6th spot?  this lineup is doomed to fail.

It's especially worrying when our backup is somebody with a 0.0 WAR after 489 MLB games, lost all ability to hit between 2009 and 2012 (and probably only regained it last year from playing at altitude) and sucks defensively.

Who?  why do you use somebody instead of an actual name?    Harris?  Romine?

Aybar is a terrible situational hitter, the team needs more players that bring intangibles not strikeouts and errors with the game on the line.   I wanna see what somebody can do.

scioscia was outmanaged by the opposing manager yet again, happens on a regular basis now.  need to can mike now before they start 6-14 again.

I'm sure the wind blowing out played a big part in his decreased velocity and the homeruns given up yesterday.  I'd wait a few more starts before you panic.

Regardless, Angels had a 1 run lead when the bullpen took over.  The score could be 10-9 and if we still lose, its the bullpen.

I guess the bullpen era is supposed to be 0 all year according to this guy.