edgur1995

why is the chart below average in '13? in my opinion he did great last year!

how or why are the Twins going to DFA Samuel Deduno. that guy can pitch. for all the names in that list I would get Samuel.

this reminds me of a post I posted a month ago where I suggested that Pujols should be a full-time DH... I completely understand the win now mentality but we shall also not forget the future.

So paying Albert Pujols is over 30 year old and only way is down is okay to pay over 20 mill but we can't pay a young future #1 pitcher that we absolutely need about 20 mill?

Edgar were you not in attendance in 2002?

Unfortunately I didn't. I had to sit those game out and watch at home, I was barely 8. I remember hearing the jets soaring threw anaheim

The fans put A LOT of pressure on Tim to hit that 300th home run. If I recall correctly, he overswung on everything. I remember him saying we embarrassed him that day. It was still fun to be there.

Remember all the grandma had the sign that said "I'm Timmys G-Ma" lol... Perfect environment!

I had a great view watching from home.

Nothing compares to live. I had great seats too, right behind the catcher. 2 levels up..

I was there. I was really hoping he would hit his 300th homerun but it just wasn't meant to be.

Everyone went nuts every at bat he had.

Went to Tim Salmon's last game? I did, best game I've attended thus far!

who is the front-runner for Tanaka? Its been a while since we've heard news....

A Nationals v. Angels World Series would be EPIC!

hey it beats talking about tanaka 24 ****ing 7

That's why I posted this, we needed something FRESH.

We didn't talk about this enough in 2012 or 2013. Let's kick off 2014 by talking about it again.

Lets!

...why?

Would you rather have us wait and see Tanaka get signed to another team and rush to Garza and either over pay or get out bid then getting 1 of the players I mention for more than we could of got them in the first place. TANAKA is ideal but sadly his story to me is bidding and location war and were short stacked. If we sign a veteran and let our young arms battle it out and have a vet for insurance while still being able to fix our bullpen and save some cash for Trouts extension. Its simple if we know we have a slight or no chance then, MOVE ON!

Mike Trout hands down. Lets debate though, have a free mind!

this team has almost no depth if things stay as is.  Sure, the top 5 could end up all panning out and pitching well.  Seems quite the stretch that 3 guys that haven't consistently ever been in a rotation for a full season would all make a full seasons worth of starts. 

 

Currently our depth is Shoemaker, Volstad, Roth, Blanton, and maybe Sappington by mid season.  That seems pretty light.  This team is two starters away from having legitimate depth.  One starter away from having pretty decent depth although not great.  And if everything stays as is, they have very little. 

 

Last year's depth was Williams, Richards, Enright, Roth and Buckner.  Not much different than our current depth if we don't get anyone else.  I know we will, but depending on the quality, we may want to get two. 

 

Still also concerned about the pen.  Yes, they are probably now league average, but I am just not comfortable with that.  I think there is a much better chance that we have a few guys that could step up vs. really not having much talent the last 3 years otherwise. 

 

Still got a fair amount of work to do, but there is still time.

Sign Hammel/ Malhom then sign Yoon for starter depth and pen then add the stud pen guy Grant Balfour and call this a wrap.

If the Angels can't sign Tanaka, they have to go for Garza.  Garza is a strong #3 and won't cost a pick.

 

If this teams #3 is Capuano, Hammel or Maholm, this team is in serious trouble.

 

Finally, if the Angels sign Garza, I'd wouldn't mind seeing them sign Maholm or Hammel to add some depth.

That's a lot of dough your talking about though. What about our bullpen?

Will all of these remaining FA pitchers wait until Tanaka is signed? Or will those that decide not to put in a bid, or believe they can't compete with the big dogs regarding his contract, sign the what will be perceived as bargain pitchers like Arroyo, Maholm and Capuano in the meantime before Tanaka is signed?

 

I'm concerned that Jan. 24th is too late and many of these pitchers mentioned above, if not all, will sign with someone else before that date. There is a chance the Angels are left with nothing.

That's why we shouldn't wait for the fireworks and act quickly but smartly.

I say move on, sign Jason Hammel or Bronson Arroyo then go sign Suk-Min Yoon and Balfour and extend Trout. Call it an off season.

I'm willing to budge on trading Aybar for some pitching then addressing the SS some other time. I would consider it now as Drew is a very interesting player.

At this point we all pray and hope that we get Tanaka, but let us be realistic because we need to be....

We need a player who can fill our #3 spot and eventually be our ace in the forecoming years for when the terrible days that Jered Weaver starts to regress. I absolutely think Tanaka can be that guy. But at the end, let the bad news set in as many clubs are interested in his service. I was reading, a week ago, a article that the Cubs are willing to go all out for Tanaka ( that doesn't involve the heavy spending Yankees, the sneaky Dodgers, and etc. ). As I understand we don't have lots of cash to spend as well as I think this will come down to a bidding and location war. In summary, there's a slight chance we land him.

Are we going to wait for the domino affect to happen? As soon as Tanaka is signed, every other pitcher is rare hot bread! And its going to get pricey-ugly to the point of killing the Tanaka/Garza idea.

People suggest Garza as he is a very solid 3 spot but are you willing to pay a guy who seems to be cursed with injuries and when someone like Tanaka is a couple mill away. No thank you! That idea quickly exited this post!

So what do we do then? As hard as it seems to understand I say we act fast and stay clear of the Tanaka show and grab us a good veteran who is capable to man the 3 spot for a year till the Angels decide ( 1. Paul Malhom 2. Bronson Arroyo 3. Jason Hammel 4. Chris Capuano ). Many will disagree but I have read articles that Tyler Skaggs is ready to go. I personally wouldn't put him in the rotation right away but if the guy just absolutely tears it up, it would be difficult to send him down. And if we get a big name player like, Garza or Tanaka, it would just make it so hard sit them down (too much money on the bench is beyond idiotic) as it would be to sit a vet and have depth. So now we would have young studs with a veteran arm to insure any slacking pitchers while saving us a couple of pennies to shift our attention to the biggest concern, Mike Trout's extension!

We can now extend Trout and add on some stud pen guys and call this off-season a good one. This is my plan and opinions to close out the off-season moves. Thank you for reading and happy holidays!

I wanna weigh the options. I'm a guy who likes to have all my options open.

1. The first option is of course to try to land Tanaka. I believe that we need a 2 to 3 guy who layer can be our ace ass who can uphold the torch when Weaver begins to regress. I thought CJ could have been and still has the potential but at times he slumps and I don't want that from my ace. So if we can get a young arm who can be that like Tanaka, that would be awesome. His stuff is great, not a Yu Darvish but has the up side to be great. The problem here is the money. There has to be a ton of teams in the sweep stakes, I'm sure we would be outbidded. Tanaka has to want to come here or we would have to do something so drastic ( I don't know what though).

2. We can get Garza and to be honest he would be too expensive too. I rather go full force to Tanaka then settle for Garza.

3. This an option I would consider. How about we trap a veteran ( Paul Malhom, Bronson Arroyo, Chris Capuano, Jason Hammel ). The money wouldn't be so much. I see as we have 3 good prospect at the moment ( Richards, Skaggs, Santiago ) all can be awesome. We honestly don't know how well Skaggs will do but lets say he tears it up at ST. Do you want to keep him in the minors or put him in the rotation? See with that note a veteran would be better than a guy we paid 20 mill. And now we have wiggle room to extend Trout and sign some pen guys ( Yoon, Balfour ).

We can different ways and I just hope Jerry does what is good for the team and not just get anyone.

Greatest game I went to was Timmys last game before retiring.

2/10 sounds reasonable to me. Wouldn't take us out of the Tanaka sweep stakes. I think if we sign this guy and turn around and sign Tanaka then this off season would be by a success. That's the best case scenario though.

I agree on the fact that we have depth it just all needs to come together but to be on the safe side I would maybe pick up someone.