saangels

I once read in Benjamin Franklin's autobiography that he used to keep a daily record of his most salient character defects in an effort to work on and eventually eradicate them from his personality.  Thought that was very interesting.

Anybody want to jump in the fire with me in the name of self-actualization?  

I've been told that I act defensively and do not handle criticism well.  I know that I am hypersensitive to screaming children and yelping dogs.  Probably could be a little bit more humble sometimes, too.

Fair enough. 

By not having any secret liberal fantasies it would mean I don't have secrets about where I stand on issues. So when I choose one issue or the other it is not party line orientated. I think we touched on this on the question of motivation of teens to use firearms in commissions of crime. I don't like packaging things in simple sound bites and then applying them as a rule for any alike situation.

 

But let's go with your inquisitive desires to see a multilayered opinion that starts on one side of the conservative spectrum but then crosses over into the liberal. How about guns?

 

All for the right to bear arms and think that any citizen qualified should be able to purchase both firearms and ammunition to their hearts content.

 

Qualified is anyone of legal age with no history of mental defect or criminal past.

 

On the other hand I do not feel the general population is responsible enough to be entrusted with military grade weaponry and calibers such as the Barrett M82. There is no need for extended clips and rifles, SMGs or pistols that have an automatic fire setting.

 

I believe that removal of guns from the population is not gun control and should never be allowed through congress as a bill. 

 

I do believe registration and a license, similar to applying for a drivers license, should be required so that the purchaser is trained in all aspects of gun safety. Classes must be attended and a passing test score both written and physical demonstration before a license is issued.

 

I do not believe you need a gun safe at home, that the storage and safety precaution you choose should fit your lifestyle. If you have kids you need gun locks, if you don't then put them in your dresser if you think that is a safe zone to leave a loaded firearm for personal protection.

 

Still not convinced on the concealed carry issue if it is a good or bad idea.

 

So we are bouncing back and forth here between gun control advocacy on the liberal side and personal freedoms on the conservative/NRA side.

 

Satisfied?

You're pretty much taking a less extremist conservative stance on an issue and trying to make it sound progressive and liberal; but I'll take it.  It's probably the best answer I'm going to get, and I don't want to argue anymore.  

As usual, and I say this with the utmost sincerity, I appreciate the time that you took to express your views, but I don't really think that we are on the same page, nor will we ever be.    

I believe that most should be legal.  I believe that the minimum wage should be done away with.

MT, can you please specify whether you are referring to drugs or immigration?  

I think this is a fair question and potentially an interesting thread. Just needed to be stated in a different manner is all.

 

Anyway, I fully support a woman's right to an abortion and I also fully support the death penalty.

Thank you, tdawg.  

"Did I say I voted down a party line?"

You pretty much implied it when you said that I couldn't delve into your secret liberal fantasies because you "really have none."  But please, share with us all the last time you voted against the grain.  You can do it in this thread or the other thread--but for Christ's sake stop talking about it and just go on the record all ready.    

Well, Chad, as much as you would like to delve into my secret liberal fantasies, you can't since I really have none. I post pretty much everything straight up here when there is a straight question to be answered. What side of the political line it falls upon is up to others to determine.

What a shock.  You vote down the line without batting an eye, just checking off every R on the ballot. 

Needless to say this comes as a great surprise to me.  Of all the hair-splitting, critical thinking, open minded, contemporary sages of our time, who would have thought--Eric Notti, an unwavering partisan!

Well we can start with wrong thread for the Drone strike comment. See, not even taking a stand you shoot yourself in the foot. Like to help you with this predicament but it just looks like you are doomed to being wrong.

Ummm....I am well aware that this is a different thread.  I saw that you were active on the other thread, so I assumed that you'd get the reference.  Big mistake on my part.    

I asked an honest, well-intended sociological question: why do people mock each other on political message boards?  What do they have to gain from the experience?

I know that I used to do it in 2004 because I had a boring job that forced me to sit at a computer all day.  Is that why you guys do it?  

By the way, Notti, I noticed that you didn't post anything on the other thread, though you were active in reading peoples' responses.  I'm dying to hear about your secret liberal fancy--because there are so many, I'm sure.  It's only a matter of which one to pick...

You guys asked for a "liberal" presence.  Here I am.  What's up?  What are the sharks circling for now?     

Because you are wrong.

Glad we could clear that up for you, Chad.

Drone strike #2.  

Wrong about what?  I didn't even take a stand on anything.  

meh, we all mock each other for our views.

Why?  

To avoid getting dragged through the mud, I will take this opportunity to apologize.  I didn't mean to look down on anybody on this board in particular.  I am, however, genuinely curious as to where some of you draw the line on certain issues.  Please, for the sake of my own personal edification, humor me, if you are able to make one of the above mentioned distinctions.        

I will play your game.

 

I believe in the free market and the right to choose.

Thank you.  

I'm thinking you meant drugs.

 

If so I agree with both these POV.

I thought he was referring to illegal immigrants.  

I agree with nate that your op is filled with a sense of superiority.  As it it was written with your nose sticking as high in the air as it possibly could.

Haha, ok.  i respect it coming from you, mtangelsfan.  I guess I just got a little hot after YK's post.  

Ok, Nate refuses to answer.  Anybody else?  

Nice job deleting your post.

I wrote "You think independent thinking is cute."  In case anyone was curious what Nate is referring to.  I just thought I could make a better point.  Not trying to cover anything up.  

cute

Drone strike #1

If possible, just to prove that I'm not conversing with a bunch of drones, can each person post one traditionally liberal and one traditionally conservative viewpoint that he or she maintains at the present time?  Allow me to provide an example: I believe in worker rights and the right to bear arms.  It's not that hard.  Try it.  

Maybe they got tired of being mocked for their views.  

I can only speak for myself, but maybe they realized that by narrowing their perspectives to fit within the framework of a black and white categorical ideology they would be playing into the hands of the demagogues.

1. Misfits

2. Blondie

3. Fugees

4. The Boss

5. George Clinton

Players gonna play, haters gonna hate.  Do your thing, jshep. 

I'm pretty ashamed to admit that I like this song too. 

But we're getting off topic, gentlemen.  Let us return to the music that people mock us for. 

Am I crazy, or is Cindy Lauper's "Girls Just Want to Have Fun" a pretty good song?  lol.